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Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

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Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#41

Post by manifoldgeo »

lbhdc wrote: post #31
manifoldgeo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I applied to two different Canonical jobs, and the process was so off-putting I dropped out of both at different stages. One position required me to take a psychoanalytical test where they judge your personality traits to A.) make sure you have the desired personality traits for the role and B.) that you're smart enough for the role. I looked at the terms of service for the company they outsourced this test to, and i…

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

I don't know many other jobs that work this way. Imagine getting a construction job and having to supply your own jackhammer or take out a temporary loan to buy one. Doesn't the company have some they should supply you with? Gig-economy jobs work this way, e.g. Uber and Lyft, but those are problematic for the same reason (and a lot more reasons imho).

As another commenter said, you're adding wear and tear to your own device. Sure, I have my own computers, but they're all spoken for, hosting VMs and containers or acting as my lab. Why should I subsidize the profits of a multi-million-dollar, for-profit company by letting them use my computer at no extra cost?

Your e-waste point is a good one, but I don't think Canonical's managers were looking out for mother nature when they made that choice.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#42

Post by HumblyTossed »

lbhdc wrote: post #31
manifoldgeo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I applied to two different Canonical jobs, and the process was so off-putting I dropped out of both at different stages. One position required me to take a psychoanalytical test where they judge your personality traits to A.) make sure you have the desired personality traits for the role and B.) that you're smart enough for the role. I looked at the terms of service for the company they outsourced this test to, and i…

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

> That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always preferred personal device whenever possible. Why not cut out the ewaste?

Sounds horrible to me. Work and personal are always completely separate.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#43

Post by v3ss0n »

He is a great guy , i helped debugging ZFSMount problems with him - which causes LXD Container restarts to fail. It was just solved in previous release ( usual suspect , it is because of snap. ) . I would like to contribute on his new opensource projects.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#44

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

lbhdc wrote: post #31
manifoldgeo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I applied to two different Canonical jobs, and the process was so off-putting I dropped out of both at different stages. One position required me to take a psychoanalytical test where they judge your personality traits to A.) make sure you have the desired personality traits for the role and B.) that you're smart enough for the role. I looked at the terms of service for the company they outsourced this test to, and i…

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

> That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always preferred personal device whenever possible. Why not cut out the ewaste?

Because it externalizes their costs to employees and creates a bidirectional privacy nightmare (company data is exposed to programs running on a personal machine, and personal data is exposed to company programs - worse if they have any sort of management software but iffy even if not).

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#45

Post by HumblyTossed »

manifoldgeo wrote: post #41
lbhdc wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

I don't know many other jobs that work this way. Imagine getting a construction job and having to supply your own jackhammer or take out a temporary loan to buy one. Doesn't the company have some they should supply you with? Gig-economy jobs work this way, e.g. Uber and Lyft, but those are problematic for the same reason (and a lot more reasons imho). As another commenter said, you're adding wear and tear to your own…

Mechanics tend to bring their own tools.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#46

Post by ecshafer »

anaisbetts wrote: post #39
ilayn wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immediately withdrew after seeing the high school grade questions.

A friend of mine, a person with a Master's degree and multiple years of extremely relevant work experience, dropped out of their process after multiple interviews because they would not continue without having her high school report card. Absolute clown town.

who even has access to their high school report card? I suppose maybe I could contact my high school? But I didn't keep a copy of my own grades for more than a week maybe even in school.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

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Post by presbyterian »

manifoldgeo wrote: post #41
lbhdc wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

I don't know many other jobs that work this way. Imagine getting a construction job and having to supply your own jackhammer or take out a temporary loan to buy one. Doesn't the company have some they should supply you with? Gig-economy jobs work this way, e.g. Uber and Lyft, but those are problematic for the same reason (and a lot more reasons imho). As another commenter said, you're adding wear and tear to your own…

Construction workers (and mechanics and most other jobs where you're using standard tools) do require you to provide your own tools, that's why you'll often see Snap-On trucks touring around garages. Obviously for bigger, specialized equipment like a jackhammer or an excavator, they provide them, but I think a laptop is much closer to a set of tools in this analogy.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#48

Post by kevinmchugh »

manifoldgeo wrote: post #41
lbhdc wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

I don't know many other jobs that work this way. Imagine getting a construction job and having to supply your own jackhammer or take out a temporary loan to buy one. Doesn't the company have some they should supply you with? Gig-economy jobs work this way, e.g. Uber and Lyft, but those are problematic for the same reason (and a lot more reasons imho). As another commenter said, you're adding wear and tear to your own…

Comparing to other industries is unlikely to be useful, because many craftspeople do own their tools and bring them job to job. Who owns the tools will depend on the specific tools and needs of a job.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

#49

Post by tedivm »

lbhdc wrote: post #31
manifoldgeo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I applied to two different Canonical jobs, and the process was so off-putting I dropped out of both at different stages. One position required me to take a psychoanalytical test where they judge your personality traits to A.) make sure you have the desired personality traits for the role and B.) that you're smart enough for the role. I looked at the terms of service for the company they outsourced this test to, and i…

> It also struck me as a red flag that Canonical is 100% BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), and they do not provide a work computer. You can apply for a _loan_ to buy a computer for work, but they will not pay for one. If a company is too cheap to provide a computer at a job where you work remotely and exclusively on a computer, I don't want to be a part of that company. That doesn't seem so bad to me. I have always prefe…

The biggest reason I separate work and personal devices is that I do not want my personal devices subject to discovery if my employer is involved in a lawsuit. I can't stress this enough- if my employer is sued, I don't want the opposing law firm to get copies of my data.

The second reason is that I don't want my personal devices subject to security monitoring, and most companies that at least pretend to care about security require some level of endpoint monitoring.

Re: Stéphane Graber has left Canonical

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Post by amatecha »

ilayn wrote: post #4
ss1996 wrote: post #2

On a side note - has anyone applied to Canonical for a software job? Their first step is a written interview which requires as much, if not more, effort as a graduate college application.

Immediately withdrew after seeing the high school grade questions.

Wait I thought you mean they ask questions of a high-school difficulty level. You mean they wanted to see your actual high school grades?!?
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