Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

Post by pengaru » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 4:43 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #34

theandrewbailey wrote: post #2

This is one of those uncomfortable situations where you find yourself on the same side as the devil.

Worse, I find myself applauding the devil for their championing Open Source ! This is Oracle ! The lawnmower[0]! The company that killed OpenSolaris! What mad world is this!? [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m

Post by Aloha » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 4:45 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #48

Aloha wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think like, a big part of this was Solaris has near zero chance of gaining headshare among people who need Unix. Solaris has value for customers with vendor lock in, and its a declining revenue source which can be ridden out for a decade or two, and then discontinued.

Yeah, probably the consistent way to explain it is that Oracle thought they could get away with it for Solaris but the market of Linux distros is quite healthy and they don't have the power to pull the same thing so they push the other angle instead.

Post by freedomben » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 4:46 PM UTC

Post by josephcsible » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 4:52 PM UTC

whartung wrote: post #32

evan1107 wrote: post #8

Yeah this is just opportunistic PR. Oracle cares less about Open Source than even the most brain dead Red Hatter. As with all things Oracle, they are taking the angle that potentially creates a revenue opportunity for themselves. This is fine. I get it but doing it under the guise of higher open source ideals is comically transparent. Their OEL market share mostly consists of them targeting specific Red Hat accounts…

And to be fair, Oracle has been a remarkably good steward of Java. It's truly amazing how fast and far Java has come since the Java 7 and Java 8 days. It's been on a rocket sled of development, while still being shockingly well behaved for earlier code. If there's any critique, it's "too fast". But that's nonsense, since the LTS work helps maintain stability. And it's pretty wide open. They keep some things close to…

Post by JohnFen » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 4:54 PM UTC

mighmi wrote: post #37

chasil wrote: post #22

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Oracle does care about open source, to the extent that they have been the top Linux kernel contributor several times. https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/oracle-is-the-1-contribu... Oracle actually does not undercut the least expensive Red Hat support offerings. Oracle Linux support is $499/year for basic, and $1,399/year for premier. Both tiers allow 24x7 access to file service requests (SRs). https://www.oracle.com…

It takes people a long time to readjust preconceptions. Microsoft was the big bad for most of my life, but it took ~8 years after Ballmerś retirement for people to start noticing Microsoftś prestigious opensourcing, interesting cloud offerings etc. where itś now a commonplace that they've improved. Fascinating really. Oracleś got quite the history, but they have been supporting Linux and Java well and killing Solaris…