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Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

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Re: Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

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Post by geerlingguy »

electric_mayhem wrote: post #9
robert_foss wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to say. Never before have I agreeed with Oracle.

Big tech companies have a history of supporting the community where doing so attacks their competitors’ cash cows. There’s also that Oracle linux was formed from RHEL. Maybe let’s not confuse Oracle undermining their competitor’s moat with their genuinely being on the side of the community. It’s been a while, but the necessity of MariaDB and Percona also seem to show that Oracle’s been very much on the other side of…

> Finally, to IBM, here’s a big idea for you. You say that you don’t want to pay all those RHEL developers? Here’s how you can save money: just pull from us. Become a downstream distributor of Oracle Linux. We will happily take on the burden.

I'd love for Red Hat to call Oracle's bluff, but it would never happen.

Oracle's definitely been on the wrong side of these arguments for long enough that I wouldn't give the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

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Post by geerlingguy »

evan1107 wrote: post #8

Yeah this is just opportunistic PR. Oracle cares less about Open Source than even the most brain dead Red Hatter. As with all things Oracle, they are taking the angle that potentially creates a revenue opportunity for themselves. This is fine. I get it but doing it under the guise of higher open source ideals is comically transparent. Their OEL market share mostly consists of them targeting specific Red Hat accounts…

"A broken clock is right twice a day," something like that.

Re: Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

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Post by fariszr »

> From a practical standpoint, we believe Oracle Linux will remain as compatible as it has always been through release 9.2, but after that, there may be a greater chance for a compatibility issue to arise. If an incompatibility does affect a customer or ISV, Oracle will work to remediate the problem.

> By the way, if you are a Linux developer who disagrees with IBM’s actions and you believe in Linux freedom the way we do, we are hiring.

Well to some extent, Redhat got what it wanted, clones are starting to contribute rather than just cloning, with stream becoming the center of it all.

Cloudlinux did the same thing, they are hiring and starting to diverge from just being a RHEL clone.

Re: Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

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Post by version_five »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #2

This is one of those uncomfortable situations where you find yourself on the same side as the devil.

Free software works in part because it forces us, consumers, developers, businesses, into a better optimum than an a proprietary ecosystem. And that makes it work because it aligns incentives of self interested companies with keeping it open as we're seeing here.

Re: Keep Linux Open and Free–We Can’t Afford Not To

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Post by redroyal »

Ok maybe Oracle has a point here looking past their reputation.

Did you know Sun had a Mac mini like product back in the day based on dual UltraSPARC T2+ Coolthreads SoCs? I almost bought it off eBay

https://twitter.com/R_I_C_M/status/1646236005471485968

https://twitter.com/alanc/status/1585752213565018114

Wouldn’t it be nice if Oracle brought that back and made the ultimate open source dev box? Their latest SPARC processors are wild

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