i am very skeptical that this new UI is really better. I will give it a shot, but seriously, things should just stop changing things just for the purpose of changing it
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ Your professional input may be desired. Though I did not contribute to Thunderbird either (, yet?). Thing is, your critique may result in guidance to make part of these changes according to your skillset! But I am just a hopeless dreamer in the good of many things.
I think if the team are shipping it in this state then either: they don't have the ability to notice the issues on the core team, or they see the issues and ship it anyway. Feedback like this is unlikely to solve either of those cases. This isn't complex stuff either. I'm not a designer, I don't even do frontend/UI work, I'm basically just a backend engineer. If I'm spotting this stuff on first glance at the main mar…
You might have a particularly good eye. I saw none of these problems in the marketing screenshot.
I only see one ... icon in the entire screenshot, nothing is fuzzy, and all text looks aligned. The only weirdness is a misalignment between the sidebar header and the main window header, but those don't need to be aligned anyway.
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#123I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…
At least it is a step in the right direction. Let's hope they will continue the journey and gradually improve it. "Just" aligning margins, paddings and font sizes should be a much easier task.
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#124I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…
The fuzzy icons are because of how the image is scaled on the marketing site. If you load the image directly (https://www.thunderbird.net/media/img/thunderbird/whatsnew/1...) you'll see the icons in the UI are actually crisp.
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#125> unified folders Actually that's the worst anti-feature for an email client.
The only reason I haven't moved off Thunderbird for mac mail is because mac mail enforces a unified inbox.
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#126I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…
Good software doesn't need to look good, though. Looking good is just a bonus. I don't care in the slightest how it looks because it's still better than the alternatives.
Good software also looks good. Looking good can't make up for bad functionality. that's true. But good UX design is an important part of software.
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#127I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…
The fuzzy icons are because of how the image is scaled on the marketing site. If you load the image directly ( https://www.thunderbird.net/media/img/thunderbird/whatsnew/1... ) you'll see the icons in the UI are actually crisp.
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#128Thanks, I hate it.
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#129Wonder what the hard-drive footprint this takes now, my version; 60.9.1(32-bit) takes 126MB and i consider that bloated for what it is. At the Thunderbird 60.9 release mark; Pegasus footprint was 30MB, Opera Mail was 38MB, Sylpheed was 28MB, even the Bat was only 50MB. I run Thunderbird portable from a data pen, which is why this metric is important to me (i realize it won't be for the majority of users). Edit; Okay…
Still not sure why this metric is important when you can get 1tb pen drive for $100
Oh, then surely you can send him the $100 right quick to grab it? The hundo is no biggie, right?
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#130Does it still crash with lots of mail? I have mail filters and get like 500 mail a day. Always crashes. It gives me the option to wait or kill the app. I blame the mbox folders.