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Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Re: Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Tepix wrote: post #2

Do they have a point? I don't think so.

DoorDash finds legitimate gripe with the arbitrariness of the scope: “why would the agency choose to purposefully exclude companies that only facilitate grocery deliveries from its study and rulemaking, when those that facilitate both restaurant and grocery deliveries from local businesses would have these rules apply to them” [1]. Otherwise, it seems like usual griping. Ultimately, these lawsuits tend to turn on whether the rulemaking process was followed.

[1] https://doordash.news/get-the-facts/why-were-filing-a-lawsui...

Re: Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Post by may_i_ai_plz »

it would force companies to pay workers for any time logged into the app, regardless of whether they were delivering or not

Heh. Do these companies interview their gig workers? Could I collect some passive cash like this?

What a soul sucking job interview that would actually be:

What makes you a great delivery bicycle person and where do you see yourself in 5 years?

So in other words, these companies would mandate that you make a minimum of 17 bucks worth of deliveries or get fired, no?

The city is just being stupid on this one.

Re: Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Post by ryndbfsrw »

What a crap business model these companies have if they rely on haggling over legal loopholes to operate. The business case, at best, is the status quo remains with material threats to their operations if these laws change. This is a lose-lose for everyone. Ignore the morality arguments, why risk your money on something with almost zero upside and all this downside? Suing the government is not a sign of strength

Re: Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Post by Incipient »

may_i_ai_plz wrote: post #4

it would force companies to pay workers for any time logged into the app, regardless of whether they were delivering or not Heh. Do these companies interview their gig workers? Could I collect some passive cash like this? What a soul sucking job interview that would actually be: What makes you a great delivery bicycle person and where do you see yourself in 5 years? So in other words, these companies would mandate th…

If you were working in a warehouse and they had no packages for you to send out, they just don't pay you for that time?

Re: Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Post by true_religion »

Incipient wrote: post #6
may_i_ai_plz wrote: post #4

it would force companies to pay workers for any time logged into the app, regardless of whether they were delivering or not Heh. Do these companies interview their gig workers? Could I collect some passive cash like this? What a soul sucking job interview that would actually be: What makes you a great delivery bicycle person and where do you see yourself in 5 years? So in other words, these companies would mandate th…

If you were working in a warehouse and they had no packages for you to send out, they just don't pay you for that time?

Yeah but you can’t leave the warehouse without being fired.

Gig workers can choose to only work when it’s peak hours then stay home.

That said, no one is forcing DoorDash to allow people to log in.

I think they should have to pay for any part of an hour in which they allow a worker to login. And additionally if they refuse a login, they must continue refusing it for a minimum of 1 hour.

This way they will be incentivized to create a core of real employees for the off hours work, and only use gig workers for peak times.

Re: Uber, DoorDash Sue NYC to Stop Delivery Drivers from Getting a Minimum Wage

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Post by csomar »

This will essentially kill these platforms. I don't have the data but I can see how a delivery can take, on average, one hour. Between waiting for an order to arrive, accepting it, going to the food place, taking it to the destination, delivering it, etc...

$17 + fees + tips? => $20+ delivery fee.

Unless you are delivering for a well-off family of 5, it makes no sense.

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