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Re: Can everyone be an Einstein?

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Post by LPTS » Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 2:42 AM UTC

litewulf wrote: post #9

LPTS wrote: post #7

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It seems to me that if the local maximum in 1940 was lower than the global minimum in 2140, interesting things would happen, and that's worth wondering about. How to best give people nutrition, love, security and education and everything they need to develop to their full potential are all tractable problems. How to manipulate human brains to enhance performance is something we learn more about every day. A guy in au…

I doubt the global minimum is going to change too much in the short term. There are people with philosophical objections against say genetic treatment for diseases, and I think certain developmental disabilities will remain with us for a long time. (Plus, oftentimes people who are immensely smart in one respect are lacking in others, so perhaps there will always be room for, say, math savants who can do little else.)

I should of said global average rather then minimum. Too late to edit.

The world has changed that drastically that fast before. It only takes one generation.

Figure out how to really educate kids to a maximal degree. Post-religion anti-indoctrination memetic inoculation. Get everyone on the planet food. No anxiety around sex. Pain medication for anyone who needed it. Smarter technology. Less people living lives of quiet desperation. If all that stuff happens, people could get smart fast.

I think another shift the scale of widespread literacy is possible, and it might push the average center of gravity above the geniuses of the 20th century. Not the minimum. Oops.

Re: Can everyone be an Einstein?

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Post by litewulf » Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 5:39 AM UTC

LPTS wrote: post #11

litewulf wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt the global minimum is going to change too much in the short term. There are people with philosophical objections against say genetic treatment for diseases, and I think certain developmental disabilities will remain with us for a long time. (Plus, oftentimes people who are immensely smart in one respect are lacking in others, so perhaps there will always be room for, say, math savants who can do little else.)

I should of said global average rather then minimum. Too late to edit. The world has changed that drastically that fast before. It only takes one generation. Figure out how to really educate kids to a maximal degree. Post-religion anti-indoctrination memetic inoculation. Get everyone on the planet food. No anxiety around sex. Pain medication for anyone who needed it. Smarter technology. Less people living lives of qu…

"Post-religion anti-indoctrination memetic inoculation"

Those words all make sense in my head, but not really together. I really don't understand the anti-religious dogma, I think that there is a gradient in the beliefs of religious people and while there are definitely some reactionary elements, I don't think people who are "anti-progress" are united by religion.

Anyway, global average makes a great deal more sense, and I'd be willing to believe it'd work, but have my doubts on how fast most modern nations are willing to transform themselves into seas of highly educated citizenry. (Not to mention its hardly known at this point what the "best" education method is, so I'd imagine even such a fundamental retooling would involve lots of split testing at first ;))

Re: Can everyone be an Einstein?

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Post by LPTS » Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 4:13 PM UTC

litewulf wrote: post #12

LPTS wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should of said global average rather then minimum. Too late to edit. The world has changed that drastically that fast before. It only takes one generation. Figure out how to really educate kids to a maximal degree. Post-religion anti-indoctrination memetic inoculation. Get everyone on the planet food. No anxiety around sex. Pain medication for anyone who needed it. Smarter technology. Less people living lives of qu…

"Post-religion anti-indoctrination memetic inoculation" Those words all make sense in my head, but not really together. I really don't understand the anti-religious dogma, I think that there is a gradient in the beliefs of religious people and while there are definitely some reactionary elements, I don't think people who are "anti-progress" are united by religion. Anyway, global average makes a great deal more sense,…

Post Religion anti indoctrination memetic innoculation is Kids saying:

Jesus Christ is maybe the son of god. Allah is God, maybe, and maybe mohommed was his prophet. Maybe you should kill Buddha on the path if you meet him. Maybe the world will change in 2012. Maybe the pope is the rock Christ built his church on. Maybe there is no God. Maybe earth has a soul and we are all parts of it as our neurons are parts of our brain. Maybe there was a virgin birth.

And then learning how to repeat any word the same way they chant "Allah" or "ohm" and get the same neurological effect.