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#62
I don't understand where the actual cash came from in the video. Would this mean I still have to have a register to store the cash in? Wouldn't this make the whole process borked again?

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#63
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One piece is missing: a much more robust card reader that doesn't swivel or threaten to snap in two after a day of swiping.

I cringe when I see the picture. There's no reason that it could be a more elongated piece of plastic with a notch cut out that cradles the edge of the iPad in that spot. Sure, it means a different model for different iPads... but fortunately there are a limited number of variations of devices to accommodate.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Came here to say this. The software itself is really awesome, and they have done some great UI/UX work here, but the hardware experience is still very frustrating. I'm really surprised they haven't iterated on the hardware. It's been what, two years since they started sending out the first set of scanners? While a case solution on the iPhone would work well, I can see why they might not do this for the iPad (designin…

Smart think to do would be to make it two pieces. Take the existing card reader but have an additional attachment that does exactly what you said, add stability by holding onto the corners. If a customer wants something small, they have that. Or they can get something for the load. Best part is that it would make manufacturing a breeze still all you would be creating would be a few versions of an injection mold.

Agreed. More flexibility for the shop and easier to replace/upgrade the "working" part ... How long until a kick starter project opens up offering this?

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No other startup has ever been so primed for an Apple acquisition. Everything from execution, design sensibility, culture and even CEO is heavily Apple inspired but in a different but still complementary industry.

That would be an almost funny turn of events. My neighbor is a recruiter at Square and I'm 100% positive that they try to recruit exclusively out of Apple's hardware teams. These are the people that are looking for their next win and already know their way around the China factories where the Square's are made.

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#66
There's lots of talk about the survival of the Square reader under heavy demand, certainly another more durable reader needs to be produced.

However is the market for square at this price point really for anything above one or maybe two point of sales?

Using this setup in some bar environments would require some hardware to protect the iPad, I've worked looking after hardware in busy student union bars where the staff just destroy the tills with spillages.

My impression of the earlier square products for POS were that it's intended for giving the small business something, not for running your local branch of Starbucks.

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Did anybody go through the verification process when ordering the device? After I input some basic info (like my birthday and last 4 digits of my SSN), I was asked to answer questions I have no idea how they even came up with. One example is, "What hospital did you live near when you were on RandomName St.?" How did they immediately know what street I lived on some years back, and also that it was near a major hospit…

That doesn't seem like a useful security question at all. Anyone can trivially find out the answer via online maps, and meanwhile the actual person who lived at that location might not necessarily know the answer themselves without looking it up. At most, if you use it as a trick question ("Hah, caught you, the person you wanted to authenticate as never lived on RandomName St!"), you get one bit of information, which…

Street names are quite common though, knowing the street name is unlikely to give you enough information to answer the question. The real person however, would know the location of the street and be able to use this to look up the right answer if they didn't already know.

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One piece is missing: a much more robust card reader that doesn't swivel or threaten to snap in two after a day of swiping.

I noticed a local business (Blue Moon Burgers) using iPads as registers, using similarly flimsy (though not Square) card readers. They gave up after a few months and switched to a traditional POS setup. I don't know whether it was the card readers that were to blame, but I'm guessing they were part of it.

I noticed that my local Joe The Art of Coffee did the same after several months. I should go ask if the Square reader was the issue...

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#69
I can't actually remember the last time I swiped my card and signed for anything, because we in the U.K., like most of Europe, use Chip and Pin (EMV is the official name). I wonder if Square will still function when this gets pushed into the U.S. market.

Surely this is due soon in the U.S.? http://corporate.visa.com/media-center/press-releases/press1...

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#70

I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but desensitising the general public to devices that their card is being scanned through (and occasions where that might be appropriate) will surely lead to to an increase in card fraud. What's to stop someone jailbreaking an ipad, writing a custom fake ui, clipping in a square scanner, and writing off a days worth of cheap merchandise down at the park for a haul of card details…

> What's to stop someone ... writing off a days worth of cheap merchandise down at the park for a haul of card details? The fact that stolen credit card numbers, even with a full billing address and CVV2 code are still only worth a couple dollars on the black market. Your setup wouldn't even capture that, so your merchandise is probably worth more than the numbers. And you're putting yourself at pretty serious risk o…

Thanks.

In europe we use chip and pin, so a fake app could collect the pin directly. If someone was to harvest 30 cards with pin, could they then visit an atm directly? Perhaps I'm underestimating the difficulty of cloning cards. If that is possible, CVV2 would be unnecessary.

I hear your point about normal credit card terminals being available. As a european I wouldn't expect to see one on a stall by the side of a road though, and would normally be suspicious of anyone suggesting that they accept credit cards under these conditions.

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