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Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

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Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

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Only take rocket fuel (VC funding) if you've got a rocket (PMF in a massive TAM with net revenue retention) If you don't have a rocket, the rocket fuel will be wasted and disappointing in any other vehicle. Ideally you bootstrap until it's clear. But if you start the company with VC funding, you should know the expectation. If you truly have a rocket the economics of VC funding is favorable for everyone.

How do you know if you have a Rocket? Many (most?) VC funded companies are just appearance, no substance and it’s all very apparent. All the new AI ‘products’ for instance. So those are clearly not rockets, just blah and hype. Maybe we had rockets before, but I don’t want to lie and cheat like some of our vc invested companies did (most are gone). Never were rockets, just hype, Twitter presence and faking all around.

monthly/annual growth?

To be honest, startups play on another level than most SMBs. With a SMB, you can double your growth every year for 5-10 years straight, and do very well, but not be interesting for VCs. To be interesting and relevant for VC money, you need a business that can scale to millions of users.

If you can show that you're able to double growth every month (or similar short-window metrics) with an idea that could scale to a billion dollar company, you'll get the interviews all right. Hype is a big part of growth.

The problem, so to speak, is that you'll be competing against other startups - and if you they have the VC money, but you don't, there's a good chance they'll outpace/outgrow you.

I think it's very noble to grow as much as you can organically - but realistically speaking, it's difficult to compete against those that are funded.

And you don't really need to use the money you get - being funded also comes with a signaling effect. You get lots of publicity, and get to signal that serious investors are willing to back you.

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

#112
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You’re so right! It was an absolute disaster for us. Never do it!!!!! Kidding aside, it is true that raising money from VCs puts you on a very defined path with really only three potential outcomes: 1) failure, 2) sell to acquirer, or 3) go public. There are a small handful of exceptions, mostly for companies that throw off massive amounts of cash, but, realistically, those are the outcomes. If you don’t like any of…

That some people win the lottery is not a good argument for playing the lottery

If you feel that way, don't start a product company.

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

#113
> VC Funding Means You Will Sell Your Company

> Remember when I wrote earlier that the VC dudes definition of “making everyone happy” after investing in your company doesn’t mean making it profitable? So now you might ask: Okay, so what do my VC investors want? ... They want to make a lot more money.

> ...

> Now, all of this might be none of your business, you might think. But it is! Because now the inevitable consequence, once you’ve taken VC funding, is that the objective of your company has changed: You’re no longer building your company the way you like it. You’re building your and the VCs company so that they can sell it, for a price higher than the one they paid. There are no alternatives. The course is set. You’re building to sell.

Why? Why do you have to respect the VCs' desires? Why can't you take VC funding, then use it to build a company that yields modest returns and live a comfortable life running it (and paying modest dividends to the VCs that over a few years return their investment)? Doing so would (I presume) not constitute any kind of breach of fiduciary duty, so what right can the VCs possibly have to enforce their preference for a more aggressive strategy?

People commenting on startups often imply - like in the quote above - that VC investors ultimately control any business they invest in, and not the founding CEO, even when that founding CEO holds the majority of the voting stock. This strikes me as bullshit. At least, nobody ever spells out the mechanism of control, and their inability to do so makes me think they don't know what they're talking about.

If I'm right that the narrative of VC control is bullshit, then what's the alternative explanation for why CEOs so often choose to pursue aggressive growth and sell their "babies"? Simple: the CEOs themselves want big money. It's not that the evil VCs are forcing the CEOs to do something they'd rather not do. It's that the VCs and CEOs are aligned in their objectives in the first place.

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

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> "The first and main takeaway is this: Companies which receive VC funding are not profitable."

This is patently untrue and deceiving by the author, doubtlessly set to tell a narrative. Sure, some companies that receive VC funding are not profitable, maybe even most, but a sizable portion of the companies that receive VC funding ARE profitable. Denying this is deceiving the readers. In fact, the easiest way to receive VC funding is being profitable!

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

#116

On the other hand, my first self-funded startup got destroyed by a VC funded venture. They had a worse product but far better marketing and they used every dirty trick in book to tarnish my company’s reputation. There is no way I’ll start another startup unless I receive backing from a huge VC company. Current economic paradigm is more similar to centralised/controlled economies of USSR. Thus if you want to succeed,…

I had this happen, we survived though, and they failed (spectacularly so). Camarades/ww.com: 1, Spotlife: 0.

And Logitech, who backed Spotlife was more than gentlemanly about it, they sent us all of their traffic for years and years.

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

#118

Only take rocket fuel (VC funding) if you've got a rocket (PMF in a massive TAM with net revenue retention) If you don't have a rocket, the rocket fuel will be wasted and disappointing in any other vehicle. Ideally you bootstrap until it's clear. But if you start the company with VC funding, you should know the expectation. If you truly have a rocket the economics of VC funding is favorable for everyone.

And the corollary is that if you do have a rocket but no fuel, a dozen others are going to copy your business and add fuel, leaving you with no chance to succeed.

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

#119

The article has a lot of interesting points, but seems to miss out on one of the main reasons (IMO) that startups take funding, which is to grow faster than (or as fast as) their competition. Unless you're lucky enough to be in a market segment without competition, you need to keep an eye on what your competitors are up to. If they can expand faster, add features faster and get more customers than you, it damages you…

OR (as you say, but many miss) you do not care about being the market leader. I just want to have a nice company with nice people, no stress and making millions for all to live. I don’t need vc money, stress, be the market leader or ‘be faster than the competition’. A LOT of services or products you can make a long term (decades) money with like this. I don’t need more than 10m euros in my life, nor do my colleagues…

> No idea why I want all this misery of competing, stress, exposure, running all the time etc etc.

Have you ever run a business before? The belief that you can build a business without dealing with competition is a myth. Having a successful company requires picking your poison.

Non-VC is a different poison than VC, and I do agree that it is a much better approach for far more many businesses. But make no mistake, having a company with "no stress and making millions for all to live" is not a realistic goal. There is no free lunch in the world of business. Competition is everywhere. You can either ignore it or embrace it.

Re: Don't Take VC Funding – It Will Destroy Your Company

#120

You’re so right! It was an absolute disaster for us. Never do it!!!!! Kidding aside, it is true that raising money from VCs puts you on a very defined path with really only three potential outcomes: 1) failure, 2) sell to acquirer, or 3) go public. There are a small handful of exceptions, mostly for companies that throw off massive amounts of cash, but, realistically, those are the outcomes. If you don’t like any of…

> While there are plenty of VC horror stories, there are fairytales as well. What's the ratio, though??? 10/1? 20/1? 50/1?

Your VC founded business can fail without being an horror story though.
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