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Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by JJMcJ »

dangus wrote: post #54
bergeoisie wrote: post #3

The passive voice around laying off employees is always so gross. It didn't magically require you lay off those employees. Someone in your C-suite decided. Own it.

> In most cases, this package includes 16 weeks of salary, up to one year of health insurance coverage, and a performance bonus, paid pro-rata as if the year-end performance targets have already been achieved. Layoffs are amazing. Every layoff I’ve experienced has been a financial gain and reduction in my total workload. That’s the whole point of severance packages: to keep employees happy enough to not sue. And let…

I've had zero severance or two weeks extra pay layoffs.

Those are a lot less fun.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by imchillyb »

Humans are the most costly resource a business possesses. The new owners recognize this and have taken steps to minimize bleed.

Second step will be moving their digital assets to another region, that's not in the EU.

I imagine the third and final step will be to schlep the IP to someone else.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by vsareto »

arcbyte wrote: post #21

There's a massive population of software developers that don't care about software, don't have a passion for the problem solving, don't feel accomplishment when they ship something. They just got into the business because of the money and the hype. These people will never amount to much and will cost companies lots of opportunity cost money. It makes sense to not pay Bay Area salaries for these people and to go pay p…

It’s fine to be passionate but can lead to unwise decisions. Getting taken advantage of is one, accepting lower pay than you should for nebulous benefits is another. If you are passionate, surely you crave the financial freedom to do your own thing on your own terms instead of wasting time at a company full of dispassionate people.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by maccard »

nexuist wrote: post #67
emptysongglass wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment implies European tech workers are somehow less passionate or that passionate tech workers can't be found here. This is a harmful myth that perpetuates our depressed wages. We're not America's backwater for tech sourcing. We're just as capable and passionate.

With all due respect, as a European myself, the ones who are passionate about tech do not stay out of the US for long. There are notable exceptions of course but the immigration statistics and subsequent brain drain is undeniable. The only notable tech company to come out of Europe in the last decade is Spotify.

I don't agree - moving to the US is about chasing the money.

> The only notable tech company to come out of Europe in the last decade is Spotify.

I think this is incredibly dismissive of a huge number of tech companies that are european. ASML are dutch, and ARM are a UK company. Neither are startups, but both are foundations of the bleeding edge of tech this decade.

The fintech space is brimming with startups in europe, and to the best of my knowledge this is far superior to the situation in the US.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by isykt »

29athrowaway wrote: post #70
isykt wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was an acquisition, not a merger, but if we misquote your mother a bit to fit this situation: YouTube?

It's full of residential trash burning videos. They film themselves burning residential trash and teach others "how to save money at the dump" doing it. Each one of them pollutes more than an entire city. I've reported them, because those activities are illegal, and YouTube keeps the videos up.

The comment I'm responding to asked if either the customer or the company were better after the merger.

Google's (and YouTube's) customers are advertisers. Advertisers are certainly better off with the scale and reach that Google juiced YouTube with, and Google earns about $15B annually in revenue from it.

So, I'd say both conditions are met.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by brigadier132 »

ghaff wrote: post #77
brigadier132 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok... why do all the people that just want to clock in and get a paycheck get offended that people willing to pay a lot of money want to hire people that actually care? Because you want to have your cake and eat it too?

I care more about the quality of work that people do than the degree to which they “care” in the abstract-which are only loosely correlated.

Putting effort and time into a craft is not “loosely” correlated to being good. People that work harder, put in more effort and are frankly obsessed with their craft are, with few exceptions, better than those that are not. This is one of those “my grandma could have told you that” moments…

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by Bystander22 »

hirundo wrote: post #62

I was't planning on leaving Evernote after many years of use. But I went to do a full export yesterday, just in case. It locked up mid way through four times in a row, 3x after fresh reboots. Now I'm planning on leaving Evernote.

Here's how to do it:

1. Download and install the legacy Evernote v.6.25.x.x. Evernote has removed it from their website but you can get it at FileHippo. Download this now - I downloaded 6.25.3.9348 and used it, but now it's gone from FileHippo... not sure why. https://filehippo.com/download_evernote/6.25.1.9091/ I installed on a separate computer, but probably you can run v10.x and v.6.25.x on the same one.

2. Follow the undocumented trick for downloading all notebooks at once. This will preserve tags as well. Archived here: https://archive.ph/XDnqN - scroll down to KoZz's comment posted on "Tuesday at 11:53 AM".

3. Then if you want to move to Obsidian, use YARLE but note the template that automatically loads doesn't work (it has spaces and breaks other rules). https://github.com/akosbalasko/yarle

4. Template block definitions here: https://github.com/akosbalasko/yarle/blob/master/Templates.m... FWIW, I used this as my template (paste in the "Set Template" window for YARLE):

    {content-block}{content}{end-content-block}
    {tags-block}
    Tag(s): {tags}
    {end-tags-block}

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by ghaff »

brigadier132 wrote: post #86
ghaff wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I care more about the quality of work that people do than the degree to which they “care” in the abstract-which are only loosely correlated.

Putting effort and time into a craft is not “loosely” correlated to being good. People that work harder, put in more effort and are frankly obsessed with their craft are, with few exceptions, better than those that are not. This is one of those “my grandma could have told you that” moments…

I have met plenty of people who were really enthusiastic about filmmaking, writing, sports of various kinds, etc. who were simply not very good. It’s probably hard to excel at something you hate but enthusiasm doesn’t necessarily translate into skill.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by sys_64738 »

arcbyte wrote: post #21

There's a massive population of software developers that don't care about software, don't have a passion for the problem solving, don't feel accomplishment when they ship something. They just got into the business because of the money and the hype. These people will never amount to much and will cost companies lots of opportunity cost money. It makes sense to not pay Bay Area salaries for these people and to go pay p…

People have lives outside where they work. It's a job to pay the mortgage not some mission to change the world. If you think your value to a company makes you irreplaceable then you're not the first to sit in the chair of naivety.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Post by yodsanklai »

iampims wrote: post #56
yodsanklai wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a harmful myth that perpetuates our depressed wages In some European countries, conditions are more favorable to workers, and this can be reflected in the wages as well. For instance, an employee in France will enjoy 35 weeks of holiday per year (not including public holidays), and also stronger protections regarding layoffs. This is somewhat expected that wages are also lower. EDIT: 35 days , not weeks.

You possibly meant 35 days per year.

35 days, that's correct!
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