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Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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> This is a harmful myth that perpetuates our depressed wages In some European countries, conditions are more favorable to workers, and this can be reflected in the wages as well. For instance, an employee in France will enjoy 35 weeks of holiday per year (not including public holidays), and also stronger protections regarding layoffs. This is somewhat expected that wages are also lower. EDIT: 35 days , not weeks.

You possibly meant 35 days per year.

Given French stereotypes, I'm not sure, heh.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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This was an acquisition, not a merger, but if we misquote your mother a bit to fit this situation: YouTube?

youtube is significantly worse other than maybe in stability/uptime. remember google tried to force that weird google plus login instead? and now it’s so corporatized/ad filled

In no world would Youtube be even remotely profitable without advertising. Google ran it as a $B+/year loss for years before managing to making it profitable.

Tell me now a believable alternative growth story for Youtube where Google didn't buy it and the service isn't "corporatized" and not losing money.

You can't compare an unprofitable small-scale startup product to what the same product needs to be to make it 1) planet-scale and 2) profitable.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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There's a massive population of software developers that don't care about software, don't have a passion for the problem solving, don't feel accomplishment when they ship something. They just got into the business because of the money and the hype. These people will never amount to much and will cost companies lots of opportunity cost money. It makes sense to not pay Bay Area salaries for these people and to go pay p…

Your comment implies European tech workers are somehow less passionate or that passionate tech workers can't be found here. This is a harmful myth that perpetuates our depressed wages. We're not America's backwater for tech sourcing. We're just as capable and passionate.

The protestant work ethic is becoming a thing of the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic

The replacement now is the "hustler's work ethic", which takes away the virtues from the traditional work ethic.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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These comments are getting worse than reddit... What does Evernote even need staff for, it's a super basic paid note platform, anything opensource is loads better

I'm always amazed when I find out a basic app is some corporation's flagship product. Ironically, it seems to be a mostly American phenomenon.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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I think for note taking apps there are only two ways to survive: enrich the offering and grow accordingly (e.g. Notion) or feature-freeze the app and stay small (e.g. Remember the milk).

What brought Evernote down is it being stuck between the two worlds: it grew its corporate footprint without growing its offering.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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Oh the horror. Someone might work a job because they need money to eat even though they’re not deeply passionate about it.

Ok... why do all the people that just want to clock in and get a paycheck get offended that people willing to pay a lot of money want to hire people that actually care? Because you want to have your cake and eat it too?

I care more about the quality of work that people do than the degree to which they “care” in the abstract-which are only loosely correlated.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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post #21

There's a massive population of software developers that don't care about software, don't have a passion for the problem solving, don't feel accomplishment when they ship something. They just got into the business because of the money and the hype. These people will never amount to much and will cost companies lots of opportunity cost money. It makes sense to not pay Bay Area salaries for these people and to go pay p…

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Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a harmful myth that perpetuates our depressed wages In some European countries, conditions are more favorable to workers, and this can be reflected in the wages as well. For instance, an employee in France will enjoy 35 weeks of holiday per year (not including public holidays), and also stronger protections regarding layoffs. This is somewhat expected that wages are also lower. EDIT: 35 days , not weeks.

You possibly meant 35 days per year.

French side do weeks not days like Americans. That is why French can't compete with the rest of EU. If you think Americam boomers bad, ENTIRE France is a glorified boomers on steroid. To be fair their income tax rate is 70%. So work hard? Reagan once forgo the other half of the year of work once he max his marginal tax rate.

Re: Moving the Evernote center of operations to Europe

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post #48

My mother was a banker. She asked a hypothetical question of me, 30 years ago, that I've never been able to answer: "Name for me one company that was better, for the customer or the employees, after a merger."

Lamborghini?

Surely this supports the poster's statement - they went from the Miura and Countach to todays RGB gamer mouse mobile with a Volkswagen drivetrain - a true Shakespearean tragedy
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