I hope available on Indonesia
Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
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Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#12I really wish Fairphone 4 had GrapheneOS support, but after almost 4 years of Fairphone 3 I decided to go with a Pixel instead. Too many hardware bugs with the FP3 that were never acknowledged by the vendor and unhappy customers with bricked FP4's that requires sending them back in.
Also I would have hoped for them continuing the FP3 architecture, feels such a waste that they've now instead developed a much more expensive hardware again.
Building and maintaining an Android device is truly not trivial, kudos for that, but I don't think with their current company size they're truly up for the task.
Also buying a Fairphone instead of a wider used phone means you'll be able to repair it - but because all the internal parts are super customized, phone repair shops won't have their usual source of spare parts.
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#13Fairphone 4 has been my main and only phone for several months now. Great experience, very good battary life. Performance-wise, I haven't noticed any significant difference compared to traditional phones. The only drawbacks might be the camera and thickness, but honestly I don't care much.
Of course, much depends on your use case and expectations. YMMV.
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#14Is the hardware really the bottleneck to sustainable device? The software seems more much important but nobody is tackling it.
Having a phone with a new battery doesn't matter if I can't run the same apps as others.
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#15Congratulations to the fairphone team on shipping. I have two questions though. 1. Bands: does it have all the bands for GSM carriers in the US? CDMA? 2. Can you use this phone powered solely by the charger with the battery removed? With a 65W Thinkpad charger?
GSM, CDMA and UMTS are all dead or on their way out in the US. In terms of LTE bands I think T-Mobile (or MVNO's depending on their network) is the sole choice.
It might work on verizon but it lacks their low bands so coverage won't be good. No way it works on AT&T due to their stupid IMEI whitelisting. Notably it's also missing T-Mobile's N25 which is probably going to be their main midband 5G band eventually, but it has all the others (no B26 LTE but that's old sprint towers almost entirely phased out)
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#16Is the hardware really the bottleneck to sustainable device? The software seems more much important but nobody is tackling it. Having a phone with a new battery doesn't matter if I can't run the same apps as others.
They also provide 5-year software support.
https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/997918043739...
> For Fairphone 4, we guarantee software support until the end of 2026, this includes an upgrade to Android 12 and, later on, Android 13.
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#17Is the hardware really the bottleneck to sustainable device? The software seems more much important but nobody is tackling it. Having a phone with a new battery doesn't matter if I can't run the same apps as others.
Apple does quite well on this. Also Samsung on some devices
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#18The US already has a repairable, sustainable smartphone. It's called Teracube. https://myteracube.com/ 4-yr warranty, stock Android.
I was glad to see on arriving at their homepage that the Teracube was not, in fact, a cube.
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#19see also nokia g22: https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/nokia-g-22/specs?sku=101...
This device has no US carrier band support, it's neat device I guess but terrible suggestion given the submission is about FP4 going to US.
Re: Fairphone 4 is coming to the US
#20https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36405014
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36600014
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36600211
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36600709
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36608312
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36634318
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36635666