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I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

I believe it’s still possible to have that experience but you have to go down the personal site + email route.

There you’ll still find people willing to have thoughtful conversations.

At least, that’s my experience.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

#242

Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

Hrmmm....

People act like self promotion is almost braggadocious and it bewilders me... The problem is spammers and promo shills that spam for commercial entities and brands under the cover of acting as if they are honest human beings. The enemy is not the individual tring to promote their mixtape, legal advice, or knitted hats.

Social media and sites like Reddit have shut out honest individual self promoters based on moderator arrogance that is very self destructive, anti-competitive, and also very hostile to everyone's ability to be an independent entrepreneur. They shut out small promoters because it leaves room for larger companies to shill all day while using celebrities, manufactured celebrities, and even well known personalities that are already very wealthy. I think it's disgusting how marketing works now, charging the smallest creators the same price as wealthy {fully staffed} big companies for online ads even before small entities are properly profitable is deeply unethical. It creates a business economy in which only the wealthy thrive. As the cost of living rises. None of us normals are safe from this unfair financial manipulation. And the threat to devaluation of our ability to create and run a successful business of our own/

If that attitude of banning self promotion prevails, no one will be upwardly mobile, because as social media is already throttling everyone for money. Eventually if this attitude prevails, there will be no way to let anyone know about your business or skills, and we'll all be at the mercy of only working for large corporations because business promotional costs will be prohibitive to success.

I have noticed data working across even competing social sites, which worries me greatly. I think there is already a social score at plat for most of us even when we aren't signed up for web apps... Our phones are the likely underhanded snitch//

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Grab YouTube premium to not see ads. You have to pay for it somehow, either you watch ads for free or you swap out your LTV for cash by just paying outright. This isn’t a mark of degradation at all. “Back in the day” of non-monetization isn’t sustainable for any decent length of time because eventually the people donating (VCs) will want a return or will run out of money.

You act like they NEED to make every video have 5000 ads. It wasn't that bad before when you watched a short ad. But now they are just shoving them in your face. Go look at how much profit they made and tell me that increasing the ads to proposterous amounts was necessary.

I’m definitely not in favor of capping the amount of profit a company can make.

If they are raising prices (amount of ads shown) and people continue to pay then I can’t fault them for it.

As I type this I realize that both you and the person I was originally responding to are just expressing that you don’t like the price increases. Which is totally fair.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

#244

Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

Big part of it, as far as I can tell. Slight further (and darker) twist: our economic model is dying, but nothing substantive is being done to make appropriate revisions. Essentially: we have excessive, but still increasing, numbers of people with skills and in economic classes / roles that are "tertiary" and beyond. As processes have been made more efficient over time, and the surplus wealth has been accrued in an e…

Your talk of middle class makes it sound like it's the average for the world when in fact it's a tiny minority.... Making between 100k and 1mil usd

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_class

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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> I think attention seeking is either pathological or for making money. For a few decades we've been bombarded with the idea that our career depends mostly on our visibility instead of our qualifications and experience, that our next job will certainly be dictated by our social graph, and that getting ourselves known is key to have a good career. Consequently, we see a whole universe of self-promoting loudmouths gene…

Ah yes that wonderful time more than a few decades ago where ... Knowing people didn't help you get better jobs?

> Knowing people didn't help you get better jobs?

I'm not sure you got the point.

It really is not about your connections not leading to job opportunities. It's about the belief your job prospects are tied to the number of people you're connected in social network apps, and this belief leading people to try to attract followers by continuously generating noise in social networking services.

Also, some of the most sought after jobs in tech, such as the covetted FANG positions, are not achieved by the depth and width of your social graph. How does knowing people help you with that?

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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post #132

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Genuinely this sounds more like complain that old echo chamber changed in ideology.

it didn’t, they’re full of shit.

I just find the "everyone in here used to be libertarian which somehow implied diversity of view. But now that people with other opinions shown up, it became bubble" fundamentally amusing.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Unless you're posting a show HN, in which case every brother and their mother chimes in with "this is nice but here's my cloud service that does a similar thing but better" sideswipes

I seem to remember someone saying on here that if you're looking for suggestions on something, the best thing to do is put up a half baked version of your own and watch as swarms of people come in to talk about their version. I guess it tracks as well, in general on the internet I find you get better advice claiming something is the case and then getting corrected than just asking for advice

Basically a variation of “the quickest way to get the correct answer on the internet is to confidently assert the wrong one.”

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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At the risk of sounding mean, Threads really is the dumbest place on the Internet. It’s vapid beyond anything I’ve ever experienced.

Is it worse than LinkedIn?

I can't imagine such a place

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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That may be true, but I really don’t think I want to. It’s Instagram in words, and Instagram by and large is an awful, fake and vapid place. Threads might be decent software, but the content is horrible.

Instagram is my most used platform. All my closest friends are there. All the top tier meme content is there. Group chat is lit. It’s not a fake and vapid place. All social media are just vehicles to communicate with other people. If you feel it’s fake and vapid you’re just following the wrong crowd.

but that’s kind of the thing with threads. no matter how curated my follow list is, my feed is filled with the type of content the OP calls out. there’s no “following-only” feed.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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post #174

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Why should contribution to “the world”, the gargantua of global culture, history, and economy, be the yardstick of worth? I believe almost everyone has something valuable to contribute to their friends, family, neighborhood, or community. We can step away from the chaotic, nebulous global village and focus on the tangible human connections of actual village systems, where “the defining trait of a village is that it’s…

In this case I'm thinking of people who are trying to make a living. If it were up to me everyone would automatically receive enough money to stay alive, and nobody would have to grasp at straws like that. It would be interesting to see what they would create. Meantime I am distressed by that grasping, which I understand to be necessary, or at least desperate. I wonder if they could do better creating something, anyt…

Employment, housing, and healthcare should not be inexorably interlinked. Losing your job puts your housing and healthcare at immediate risk, and activism can look like unprofessional behavior or a brand risk. Chilling effect.
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