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A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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I wonder if we’ll see the day where legal laws change to either condone or just ignore activities like this. I feel like if we did we’d see more good things happening.

Growing public fruit trees, handing out food, stopping to help an injured person, all of those are illegal in some jurisdictions or can get you into serious legal trouble.

That is because laws exist not just to stop bad things but also to stop good things from happening, or at least centralize how good things are done.

I mean, otherwise what would happen? We’d all probably just take care of each other, and we can’t have that happening.

Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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post #3

I wonder if we’ll see the day where legal laws change to either condone or just ignore activities like this. I feel like if we did we’d see more good things happening.

Growing public fruit trees, handing out food, stopping to help an injured person, all of those are illegal in some jurisdictions or can get you into serious legal trouble. That is because laws exist not just to stop bad things but also to stop good things from happening, or at least centralize how good things are done. I mean, otherwise what would happen? We’d all probably just take care of each other, and we can’t h…

"stopping to help an injured person,"

can you be more specific please? where and in which case?

Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Growing public fruit trees, handing out food, stopping to help an injured person, all of those are illegal in some jurisdictions or can get you into serious legal trouble. That is because laws exist not just to stop bad things but also to stop good things from happening, or at least centralize how good things are done. I mean, otherwise what would happen? We’d all probably just take care of each other, and we can’t h…

"stopping to help an injured person," can you be more specific please? where and in which case?

Being held liable for attempting to help but making things worse.

Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Growing public fruit trees, handing out food, stopping to help an injured person, all of those are illegal in some jurisdictions or can get you into serious legal trouble. That is because laws exist not just to stop bad things but also to stop good things from happening, or at least centralize how good things are done. I mean, otherwise what would happen? We’d all probably just take care of each other, and we can’t h…

"stopping to help an injured person," can you be more specific please? where and in which case?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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post #3

I wonder if we’ll see the day where legal laws change to either condone or just ignore activities like this. I feel like if we did we’d see more good things happening.

Growing public fruit trees, handing out food, stopping to help an injured person, all of those are illegal in some jurisdictions or can get you into serious legal trouble. That is because laws exist not just to stop bad things but also to stop good things from happening, or at least centralize how good things are done. I mean, otherwise what would happen? We’d all probably just take care of each other, and we can’t h…

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Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"stopping to help an injured person," can you be more specific please? where and in which case?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

You know, one aspect that doesn't appear to be covered in that article is scams. There are often scams perpetrated where someone fakes injury or accident, either to create a diversion, or to attract wannabe "Good Samaritans" who come to render assistance and then find themselves pickpocketed or in worse trouble than they started out.

There are also people who pretend to be out of gas and just need a can filled at the local service station. A guy came up to me at a train station and showed me all his sores, and I offered to take him to the drugstore and purchase some bandages, but the only reason he was showing me sores was because he was a panhandler and he wanted cash.

I stay away from anyone who looks like they require assistance. Life is too short. I am not a professional first responder and it's not my job to diagnose or treat any illness or injury. I may call 911 if I see something unambiguously egregious, but nowadays, there are usually so many witnesses carrying mobile phones that I don't need to bother.

Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"stopping to help an injured person," can you be more specific please? where and in which case?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

This law specifically states that you cannot be held legally liable for rendering aid. Not that it is against the law to help people.

Re: A mysterious grey-hat is patching people's outdated MikroTik routers (2018)

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I think the FBI basically did this when Eternalblue (or maybe it was Bluekeep) came around years ago.

Edit: Found it. They were patching exchange servers, around when 4 zero-day vulnerabilities were disclosed for Exchange

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-fbi-removed-hacker-backdoo...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-...

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