When an app asks for permissions, it should have a “feed fake data” option

Post by Brian_K_White » Sat, Jul 08, 2023, 7:45 PM UTC

marvin wrote: post #225

floomk wrote: post #211

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> We're reviewing your app, not theirs, so what they can do is irrelevant rules for thee but not for me Apple has never been fair with its review, sadly. > I would expect Apple's response to be "change it back". Companies should not have to bend over to apple's whims just to get their software in end user hands. Hopefully upcoming EU regulation will reign apple's overreach in a bit.

You’re celebrating the possibility that EU regulation will remove Apple’s ability to enforce good user experience?

Post by V__ » Sat, Jul 08, 2023, 7:50 PM UTC

marvin wrote: post #225

floomk wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're reviewing your app, not theirs, so what they can do is irrelevant rules for thee but not for me Apple has never been fair with its review, sadly. > I would expect Apple's response to be "change it back". Companies should not have to bend over to apple's whims just to get their software in end user hands. Hopefully upcoming EU regulation will reign apple's overreach in a bit.

You’re celebrating the possibility that EU regulation will remove Apple’s ability to enforce good user experience?

Post by JimDabell » Sat, Jul 08, 2023, 7:51 PM UTC

rappatic wrote: post #220

kubik369 wrote: post #206

I am surprised no top comment mentions this — on iOS, you cannot distinguish if you were granted a permission or not. As an example, if an app asks you for access to your photos, it will always get an array. The trick is that when you deny this permission, the array will be empty, so you cannot know if the user simply has an empty library or if he denied you access. I like it, simple and elegant. Naturally, in the ca…

What about other permissions where you can't realistically send an empty object? For example, if the user grants permission to view location, the location object passed to the app will obviously have the pertinent information. Would the OS simply pass an empty location object and wouldn't that make it obvious that permission was denied? Or is it hidden behind some kind of error

Post by plorkyeran » Sat, Jul 08, 2023, 7:56 PM UTC

grishka wrote: post #226

wruza wrote: post #179

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So you and me have both worlds to choose from (not gonna reiterate pros/cons hundredth time). You are living in yours, but I have to lose mine. By me I mean all those people who chose Apple for what it is and ignore Android for what it is, with regards to what we’re talking about. You have no real problem, only intrusive ideology. Please relax and leave us alone. We’ll speak for ourselves when we feel wronged.

As an app developer, I do have a very real problem. I don't want Apple to impose their agenda on me and act like they own the relationship between me and my users. In particular, Apple should have no opinion on what kind of UGC my app contains if it's rated 18+. Apple should also stop protecting their own products by rejecting apps that cut into their market. But of course, Apple would do none of these things volunta…

Post by fbdab103 » Sat, Jul 08, 2023, 8:00 PM UTC

plagiarist wrote: post #235

H8crilA wrote: post #221

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How does that work for location? Also, an empty folder with photos is almost certainly implying lack of permissions. Very few people never took a picture.

I think they're just full-on mistaken, and it is possible for the app to distinguish between access levels: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/photokit/phauthori...