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Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by CuriousSkeptic »

motoxpro wrote: post #200
jsbisviewtiful wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it sounds very “old man yells at cloud” but I truly miss many parts of the old internet, when YouTube was new and social media was still in its fledgling phase. There are a lot of perks and quality of life improvements thanks to all the advancements, but being subjected to 4 ads per 11 minutes on YouTube, Google being much less useful thanks to SEO optimization and all the self-indulgent self- promotion on jus…

Grab YouTube premium to not see ads. You have to pay for it somehow, either you watch ads for free or you swap out your LTV for cash by just paying outright. This isn’t a mark of degradation at all. “Back in the day” of non-monetization isn’t sustainable for any decent length of time because eventually the people donating (VCs) will want a return or will run out of money.

Are there truly no ads? Have been putting it of thinking it just removes the google injected ads, but keeping all the promotions and such

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by [deleted] »

the-smug-one wrote: post #189
rcme wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it exhausting looking at every offhand HN comment through a racial lens? Plenty of rich white people like discussing politics. There are only two main political parties in the U.S. One of them has rich white people as their entire shtick. Or, log on to Facebook at look at the type of stuff boomer grandparents post.

Is it really so bothersome to you to hear it pointed out that people who aren't rich white men have very real needs that could be solved with political action and as such they might be more inclined to talk about politics? I'm assuming you're talking about the GOP. That party has a lot of poor white voters, they also have a very real need for political action on their part.

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Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by ipaddr »

jsbisviewtiful wrote: post #185
thomasz wrote: post #154

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The hyper commercialization of the internet has turned people into spam bots. That’s why todays internet, with billions of users feels less populated than what we had in the early to mid 2000s.

I know it sounds very “old man yells at cloud” but I truly miss many parts of the old internet, when YouTube was new and social media was still in its fledgling phase. There are a lot of perks and quality of life improvements thanks to all the advancements, but being subjected to 4 ads per 11 minutes on YouTube, Google being much less useful thanks to SEO optimization and all the self-indulgent self- promotion on jus…

Take a walk into the past and use the before: after: operators on youtube. I have recently and discovered the past feels rosey but the amount of content, length, quality keeps increasing. When you go back the rooms feel much empier

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by mvdtnz »

CuriousSkeptic wrote: post #201
motoxpro wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grab YouTube premium to not see ads. You have to pay for it somehow, either you watch ads for free or you swap out your LTV for cash by just paying outright. This isn’t a mark of degradation at all. “Back in the day” of non-monetization isn’t sustainable for any decent length of time because eventually the people donating (VCs) will want a return or will run out of money.

Are there truly no ads? Have been putting it of thinking it just removes the google injected ads, but keeping all the promotions and such

There are no ads at all provided by YouTube. Obviously Google can't prevent content creators from embedding their own ads, which is becoming increasingly common.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by jfengel »

ddq wrote: post #174
jfengel wrote: post #40

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I'm interested in the contrast between the news producers, who want you to pay for content, and the flood of people desperate to attract your attention without anything of value. It feels like there is a certain amount of worthwhile stuff, despite vast numbers of people seeking ways to create it. You'd think with billions of people trying we'd get more things worth actually looking at. Is is because a lot of people j…

Why should contribution to “the world”, the gargantua of global culture, history, and economy, be the yardstick of worth? I believe almost everyone has something valuable to contribute to their friends, family, neighborhood, or community. We can step away from the chaotic, nebulous global village and focus on the tangible human connections of actual village systems, where “the defining trait of a village is that it’s…

In this case I'm thinking of people who are trying to make a living. If it were up to me everyone would automatically receive enough money to stay alive, and nobody would have to grasp at straws like that. It would be interesting to see what they would create.

Meantime I am distressed by that grasping, which I understand to be necessary, or at least desperate. I wonder if they could do better creating something, anything, more useful than vast quantities of the lowest possible effort.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by rcme »

the-smug-one wrote: post #189
rcme wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it exhausting looking at every offhand HN comment through a racial lens? Plenty of rich white people like discussing politics. There are only two main political parties in the U.S. One of them has rich white people as their entire shtick. Or, log on to Facebook at look at the type of stuff boomer grandparents post.

Is it really so bothersome to you to hear it pointed out that people who aren't rich white men have very real needs that could be solved with political action and as such they might be more inclined to talk about politics? I'm assuming you're talking about the GOP. That party has a lot of poor white voters, they also have a very real need for political action on their part.

Yes, it is bothersome. You mentioned race issues, but you could have easily mentioned climate change: “is it really so unreasonable that people want to talk about keeping the planet hospitable?” Or abortion “is it really so unreasonable women want to talk about having control of their own bodies?” Or the war in Ukraine: “is it really so unreasonable people want to talk about their own political self determination?”

There will always be important political considerations that affect groups in disproportionate ways. That doesn’t mean we need to talk about politics all the time or that there is something wrong with not wanting to talk about politics. And yes, if someone expresses a desire to avoid political discussion, I think it’s a dick move to violate that desire and subtly imply they don’t care about race issues.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by [deleted] »

fknorangesite wrote: post #199
rcme wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it exhausting looking at every offhand HN comment through a racial lens? Plenty of rich white people like discussing politics. There are only two main political parties in the U.S. One of them has rich white people as their entire shtick. Or, log on to Facebook at look at the type of stuff boomer grandparents post.

It is easy for me, personally, to just...Not Talk About Politics. But I'm also a white cis het man. For me, "politics" isn't an actual physical - sometimes mortal - threat. But the very least I can do is recognize that for many, many people "politics" is a literal matter of life and death. Can you blame them for recognizing and voicing that?

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Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by Lammy »

adventured wrote: post #100
notjoemama wrote: post #74

Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

> Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Humanity breaks into three groups: originators, amplifiers, mimics. Probably 95-97% of humanity or more are mimics. They will never produce much of anything original, that includes writing long-form blog posts or original media content (eg YouTube). They have little to no interest. This…

This is why Peter Thiel is so obsessed with René Girard

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by whalesalad »

firecall wrote: post #84
whalesalad wrote: post #5

This is a fools errand. Stop using it for a week. The product is a literal MVP right now and lots of stuff is in the pipeline. You’re spinning your wheels on this when shortly you’ll be able to see a different timeline.

That may be true, but I really don’t think I want to. It’s Instagram in words, and Instagram by and large is an awful, fake and vapid place. Threads might be decent software, but the content is horrible.

Instagram is my most used platform. All my closest friends are there. All the top tier meme content is there. Group chat is lit.

It’s not a fake and vapid place. All social media are just vehicles to communicate with other people. If you feel it’s fake and vapid you’re just following the wrong crowd.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by the-smug-one »

rcme wrote: post #206
the-smug-one wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really so bothersome to you to hear it pointed out that people who aren't rich white men have very real needs that could be solved with political action and as such they might be more inclined to talk about politics? I'm assuming you're talking about the GOP. That party has a lot of poor white voters, they also have a very real need for political action on their part.

Yes, it is bothersome. You mentioned race issues, but you could have easily mentioned climate change: “is it really so unreasonable that people want to talk about keeping the planet hospitable?” Or abortion “is it really so unreasonable women want to talk about having control of their own bodies?” Or the war in Ukraine: “is it really so unreasonable people want to talk about their own political self determination?” T…

I did mention both gender (guy) and economic (rich) status, clearly this race thing is very sensitive to you.

> I think it’s a dick move to violate that desire and subtly imply they don’t care about race issues.

There was no subtle implication, only your own fantasy.

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