I'm scheduled to go to a conference in October and seriously thinking about canceling, there's really nothing attractive about the idea in any way.
San Francisco loses 2 big conferences
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#72In separate news, sf chief economist is saying that everything is great [1]. Why is there such strong denial among city leadership and many individuals? [1] https://sfist.com/2023/07/06/san-franciscos-chief-economist-...
this is a repeat of what happened to philly when it went from bustling economic center to a union stronghold that stifled productivity, the politicians today still pretend like nothings changed
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wouldn't surprise me if this were the real reason. It really jumps out at you as a visitor. I mean literally last time I was there, a dude pooped in front of me. Another person ran into a restaurant to grab my leftovers. Numerous people were cursing at their imaginary enemy. All in areas of town where visitors might be quite common. It's really quite bad and it's an impression someone ought to do something about.
West Coast city stuff then. It's everywhere. I'm convinced there isn't any kind of immediate solution to these problems. Not that we should give up on mental health and addictions treatment. I just think the solution is way broader. Reduce income inequality, improve schools, keep up the drug treatment so the children of people with drug problems stand a chance, better research about when opiate prescriptions are appr…
The current "treatment" is to hand out free drug paraphernalia and what has been proposed in cities like SF and Seattle are taxpayer-funded "safe injection sites" fully staffed with nurses. An analogy would be to try and cure a rat problem by sitting on a park bench tossing them pieces of bread. It's irrational and it doesn't work.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Moscone isn't that much closer to the Salesforce bus station than to Caltrain. It's about the same time once you add in the extra time to wind through the tunnel and get out of the terminal. The issue with Caltrain is it ends about 1.5 miles short of downtown.
Nobody's going to take Caltrain from the airport to Moscone. Spending a few billion dollars on a bus station is ridiculous but it's orthogonal to the issue at hand. Moscone now has a subway stop, which may help with downtown connectivity (but I won't hold my breath).
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#75Have conferences outlived their usefulness? Is it worth the upheaval in routine to travel, stay in hotels, eat overpriced restaurant food, and tolerate the unsavory street environment of most big cities, to sit and listen to a bunch of companies and authors promote their latest products and books? I'm scheduled to go to a conference in October and seriously thinking about canceling, there's really nothing attractive…
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was only assaulted once at my last conference there I was only assaulted once the first time I was in Vancouver, BC. What's your point?
I used to work near Moscone. I know far too many people who share OPs experience. It's a shit show.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
West Coast city stuff then. It's everywhere. I'm convinced there isn't any kind of immediate solution to these problems. Not that we should give up on mental health and addictions treatment. I just think the solution is way broader. Reduce income inequality, improve schools, keep up the drug treatment so the children of people with drug problems stand a chance, better research about when opiate prescriptions are appr…
> keep up the drug treatment so the children of people with drug problems stand a chance The current "treatment" is to hand out free drug paraphernalia and what has been proposed in cities like SF and Seattle are taxpayer-funded "safe injection sites" fully staffed with nurses. An analogy would be to try and cure a rat problem by sitting on a park bench tossing them pieces of bread. It's irrational and it doesn't wor…
The problem being inherently human, you have to come up with solutions that at the very least treat them as such.
Re: San Francisco loses 2 big conferences
#78Have conferences outlived their usefulness? Is it worth the upheaval in routine to travel, stay in hotels, eat overpriced restaurant food, and tolerate the unsavory street environment of most big cities, to sit and listen to a bunch of companies and authors promote their latest products and books? I'm scheduled to go to a conference in October and seriously thinking about canceling, there's really nothing attractive…
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#79"(...) 2028 and beyond trending to be above 90% of the average" so quite bad decline for foreseeable future. what a rhetoric gymnastic to mislead it's "ok".
Are these venues booked 5 years in advance?
"SF Travel said Red Hat is scheduled for events at Moscone in 2026, 2028, 2030 and 2032" in one of the fine articles.
They also seem to be "not cancelled" long in advance. But that makes sense, if you want a specific venue on a specific date, there is no alternative to early options.
Re: San Francisco loses 2 big conferences
#80In separate news, sf chief economist is saying that everything is great [1]. Why is there such strong denial among city leadership and many individuals? [1] https://sfist.com/2023/07/06/san-franciscos-chief-economist-...
Which would seem to end the discussion.