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Re: How the new Threads app is made

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hhh wrote: post #223
flagrant_taco wrote: post #217

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Are people outside of the tech industry and Politics really concerned at all with Elon or Twitter? My anecdotal experience is that the only people I interact with where this comes up are either people who seen to be parroting a story from 24 hour news or a techy that abandoned Twitter shortly after the purchase (many of have since whom quietly returned).

My entire friend circle is outside of tech and hate politics, and are tired of Twitter imploding. They all want something new, or at least Twitter before Elon. Most recently, we were trying to find news about the Paris riots, and there’s nothing but misinformation (videos from other riots) spammed consistently, that have no community notes, and have nothing but racist twitter blue users pushed to the top of the repli…

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Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by hospitalJail »

Miraste wrote: post #19
hospitalJail wrote: post #12

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Facebook isnt going to be nice about this. They know they are in a strong position here. Expect an addicting algorithm that is fueled by ragebait (and if its anything like IG, coombait). The fact that it didn't release with an ability to time-sort tells you everything you need to know. Everyone knows how easy it is to sort by time, especially when stakes are low. Its anti-consumer from day 1. The surge in people are…

Why would they need people with novel ideas? Most users are happy to consume reposts and influencer spam ad infinitum, and they're probably the most monetizable segment.

These are the high value people that make one social network more valuable than others.

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Post by nwallin »

londons_explore wrote: post #49
nwallin wrote: post #47

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They're probably just using an already trained model. They're almost certainly not training a model on-device. AFAIK both the iphone and the pixel have a chip that are specifically designed to do forward propagation on a deep neural network. I don't know much about them though.

True - but what model would they want to use on-device? All the feed ranking stuff is done serverside I assume... And apart from that, the app is just for posting and reading text and pictures. I don't really see any use for any ML there.

> True - but what model would they want to use on-device?

Video/image filters. Very popular on snapchat, instagram, tiktok, etc. If you want to compete with those services you have them.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by MisterSandman »

CaptainFever wrote: post #68
MisterSandman wrote: post #48

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> my internet cap is reached 1. The vast majority of the world now has access to very high or unlimited data packs. This is hardly the big issue that HackerNews makes it out to be. 2. Threads' main user base is Instagram. An hour of watching Instagram Reels is more data than the entire Threads app. I highly doubt Instagram users are data strapped. > "my battery is drained faster" App size has nothing to do with how m…

> 1. The vast majority of the world now has access to very high or unlimited data packs. This is hardly the big issue that HackerNews makes it out to be. Source? This seems like a really first-world country thing to say.

> This seems like a really first-world country thing to say.

First world countries tend to have lower data caps and higher cost per GB on average: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cost-of-mobile-data-worldwi...

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by MisterSandman »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #218
CaptainFever wrote: post #68

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> 1. The vast majority of the world now has access to very high or unlimited data packs. This is hardly the big issue that HackerNews makes it out to be. Source? This seems like a really first-world country thing to say.

Even in some of the richest countries in the world, plenty of us are on metered phone contracts. OP acting like there isn't a cost of living crisis.

Jesus christ, we're talking about a 200MB app with text-based communication. The cost of living crisis is real but to pretend that people need to limit their internet usage to save money is ridiculous.

I live in Canada which has some of the worst data plans, and even on the 5GB plans I wouldn't bat an eye on using an app like Threads.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by flagrant_taco »

bawolff wrote: post #230
flagrant_taco wrote: post #217

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Are people outside of the tech industry and Politics really concerned at all with Elon or Twitter? My anecdotal experience is that the only people I interact with where this comes up are either people who seen to be parroting a story from 24 hour news or a techy that abandoned Twitter shortly after the purchase (many of have since whom quietly returned).

> Are people outside of the tech industry and Politics really concerned at all with Elon or Twitter? Are people who dont care about politics the target audience of the mainstream "news"? I'm sure lots of people dont care about twitter drama but i think the people who read the publications talking about twitter drama are firmly in the camp of people who care, which is why said publications are talking about it.

> Are people who dont care about politics the target audience of the mainstream "news"?

Wel again I can only speak to the interactions I have with people I know, but much of my family spends an inordinate amount of time watching 24 hour news and telling me about he latest headline of the day. They don't seem to care about politics at all though, as soon as I ask questions attempting to dig deeper into the issue or political views that might lead to that stance the conversation grinds to a halt. My best read on most people that fall into the target audience of network news is that they are people more easily influenced and drawn into drama that pits one group against another.

My original question regarding Twitter really was meant as a genuine question though. The only people I have had even mention Elon Must and Twitter seem to be in the tech world, I'm curious if I'm in a bit of a bubble myself and the Elon/Twitter issues do in fact reach beyond that.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by flagrant_taco »

hhh wrote: post #223
flagrant_taco wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are people outside of the tech industry and Politics really concerned at all with Elon or Twitter? My anecdotal experience is that the only people I interact with where this comes up are either people who seen to be parroting a story from 24 hour news or a techy that abandoned Twitter shortly after the purchase (many of have since whom quietly returned).

My entire friend circle is outside of tech and hate politics, and are tired of Twitter imploding. They all want something new, or at least Twitter before Elon. Most recently, we were trying to find news about the Paris riots, and there’s nothing but misinformation (videos from other riots) spammed consistently, that have no community notes, and have nothing but racist twitter blue users pushed to the top of the repli…

> Most recently, we were trying to find news about the Paris riots

I've been very frustrated by this for a few years now. At least since the start of the pandemic response, I've noticed myself having a very hard time finding news on topics the BLM protests/riots, trucker rallies, Paris protests/riots, etc that didn't feel extremely controlled or moderated. Finding what seems to be unbiased updates on the war has also been particularly difficult, though that's kind of expected given that it's effectively an active hot war between Russia and Nato at this point.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by astrange »

novok wrote: post #141
astrange wrote: post #54

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Pictures of your female friends at the beach. If you leave Facebook for long enough and are a man, it'll start sending you notifications anytime a woman you follow posts something. (I don't know what it sends women.) That said, Instagram is actually not run like Facebook in my experience, which is most of the reason Threads is part of IG.

I think that happens because females tend to use social media more, or out of your social graph females are the ones who do. Im a straight partnered male and i dont get coombait because i dont find the content interesting and very quickly i get cute pets and science stuff and half of the suggested people are other male friends

That's possible, yeah.

I'm not sure how many different "algorithms" Instagram has. For me I've got the reels to only show me animal videos so it's a pretty good experience, but I'm afraid to give them any signals that'll knock it to anything else. Account recommendations and ads do try to hornybait me, mostly because my partner is a dancer so it reads that content as sexy.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by 999900000999 »

fletchowns wrote: post #118
999900000999 wrote: post #32

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The target consumer doesn't care, wasting time optimizing for space doesn't make sense in this instance . I'm a little disappointed they didn't go purely React Native here. It would have been a great showcase as they ultimately own the React Native project.

Isn't React Native more for when you lack the resources to have engineers dedicated to building platform native solutions? Meta does not have that limitation, it does not seem surprising they would not be using React Native for this.

I always figured React Native and Flutter were meant as alternative ways to develop apps. Kinda disappointing Facebook and Google don't dogfood their own frameworks too much.
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