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Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by zdragnar »

rewmie wrote: post #122
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm 44 and I remember back when politics was more or less left out of hacker news altogether. Noone cared about your libertarian values or my progressive ones, everyone just talked about tech.

> I'm 44 and I remember back when politics was more or less left out of hacker news altogether. Politics is still more or less left out of hacker news. How many politics-related posts fo you see daily on HN? Zero?

I've flagged a few myself. More frequently than posts, though, are politically charged comments.

There's not a lot of thoughtful debate around them, mostly just people repeating the same tired points back and forth.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by watwut »

chaosbolt wrote: post #103
rcme wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not commenting on your theory, but what I love about HN is that, for the most part, people comment purely to talk about a topic. There’s very little self promotion. It’s very nice.

[flagged]

Genuinely this sounds more like complain that old echo chamber changed in ideology.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by jfengel »

one_level_deep wrote: post #52
jfengel wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in the contrast between the news producers, who want you to pay for content, and the flood of people desperate to attract your attention without anything of value. It feels like there is a certain amount of worthwhile stuff, despite vast numbers of people seeking ways to create it. You'd think with billions of people trying we'd get more things worth actually looking at. Is is because a lot of people j…

== Is is because a lot of people just really have nothing to contribute to the world?== Perhaps they simply have a different definition of “contribute”? Seems there are plenty of things for other people to look at given the download and signup data.

There are plenty of things to look at, though it seems to be a constant maw that is never satisfied.

And on the other hand there are "influencers" and "content producers" and "digital marketers" who want to slip into that gap, but know full well that their contribution is not of any value. They're trying to be middle men in a world that's overconnected already. They plagiarize and copy and SEO and use generated content in the hopes of snagging a fraction of a cent simply by being in the way.

I don't mean that as personally derogatory as it sounds. I don't know them or their story. But I've seen many thousands of human lives spent in quiet desperation and wish that there was a better way to use the mind they were born with.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

notjoemama wrote: post #74

Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

Yep, same has been happening here for years too.

Whoops, what I meant to say was:

Hi! As a developer at ACME inc (http://example.com/ACME) I have been following the trend of self-promotion here too, while sitting at my utra-comfortable ACME Comfy(TM) chair, and I have noticed that some people, even the ones not using our ACME Inc. TNT-as-a-service(TM), have a tendency to self promote. I have written more about it on my block on our ACME site, http://example.com/ACME/blog.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by fullshark »

notjoemama wrote: post #74

Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

Who else would want to talk to everyone on the planet simultaneously?

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by bentcorner »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #98
haliskerbas wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw some posts urging people to “get in on the beginning” in order to take advantage of the primitive ranking and go viral. Everyone wants a chance at that. Just like the promise of pump and dump crypto’s or the still private startups that told me “you just don’t understand how equity works, we are about to IPO soon, take our lowball offer”

It’s 2023, and people are still grasping for Internet Points?

Yes? I don't really get it either, but for better or worse if you want to build something that caters to the kind of people that use Threads/Twitter, its obvious that it would be better to do it now rather than in 6 months.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by timbit42 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #47
ykonstant wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about Threads, but in Mastodon mutes, filters and the occasional block make the experience vastly better.

Because Mastodon only has a linear feed, I don't even see the point, you're only going to see what you explicitly followed. It actually takes a lot of time just to build up interesting content to follow. One of the more frustrating things is when someone I find interesting goes crazy posting and the lack of algorithm just means I see way too many posts from them in a row. Maybe the mobile apps improve on this, I dunn…

The key to Mastodon is to follow hashtags so you instantly get any content relevant to your interests. I'm only following a few people because most people who have a similar interest to me will also post stuff not related to our common interest. By following hashtags, I get every post I want to see and none of the noise.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by renewiltord »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #98
haliskerbas wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw some posts urging people to “get in on the beginning” in order to take advantage of the primitive ranking and go viral. Everyone wants a chance at that. Just like the promise of pump and dump crypto’s or the still private startups that told me “you just don’t understand how equity works, we are about to IPO soon, take our lowball offer”

It’s 2023, and people are still grasping for Internet Points?

If you're good at it, you can parlay it into a million dollars like that Medlock guy.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by timbit42 »

molave wrote: post #112
grishka wrote: post #106

This forced recommended content is infuriating. It's the platform rudely getting in the way of the one purpose I want to use it for — staying up to date with things happening in my followees' lives, with zero entertainment. Their promised ActivityPub support can't come soon enough.

Being active in an ActivityPub space lately, a bunch of folks there are very vocal against Threads being part of the ecosystem. They're confident Meta will Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish.

Also, a number of Mastodon servers already plan to block Threads' servers.

Re: I am drowning in mutes: The current Threads experience

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Post by Kuinox »

worrycue wrote: post #114
notjoemama wrote: post #74

Slight twist on dead internet theory. It's not that the internet is full of bots, it's that the internet is full of self promotion. Finding real people to have real conversations is more difficult because so many want your engagement/attention for their "brand". Similar to the Black Mirror episode about social credit score.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror) ? Reminds me of Reddit. Can’t post if your karma is too low - of course you start with zero as a new poster.

This is a rule put in place by people being drowned in spambots.
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