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Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by jonhohle »

majormajor wrote: post #35
mustacheemperor wrote: post #34

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Your point that the franchise wasn't in a great spot at acquisition is noted, and I'd agree with it. I'm not the same commenter who originally voiced the broad anti-Disney polemic, I'm mostly just chiming in my general disappointment at this one franchise's lifespan in hindsight. But, I'd say it's only gotten worse over Disney's ownership. It's not much of an achievement for any film to be better than Crystal Skull,…

It wouldn't suprise me if Lucasfilm pre-Disney may have intended to use 4 to hand things off to Shia LeBeouf, but, well, whoops. The Bond model is an interesting one, I wonder how well it would work for Indiana Jones. First I guess you gotta decide if you are gonna bring it forward in time or not. If you do, I think there's something of a bad guy problem. Raiders and Last Crusade both benefited a lot from the Nazis b…

It was originally designed to emulate serials which had no end of (literal) cliffhanger stories. Temple of Doom didn’t rely on Nazi’s and is not told in sequential order with the other movies.

Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by busterarm »

jonathankoren wrote: post #61
busterarm wrote: post #46

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> Complaining that a gasp woman could beat up an octogenarian is more of a commentary about you than the inevitable march of time. I think it's more about how anyone _would_ beat up an octogenarian, rather than their ability to do so and it being a woman.

No. It's specifically the "Mary Sue" part that he's annoyed by. That term is never used online to refer to male character. Of course, a dude that can not only be athletic, can read every inscription in every ancient language, is an expert in every ancient civilization, and use a bull whip as a grappling hook at will gets a pass.

No, then they're called a Gary Stu, Marty Stu, Marty Sam or Tom Sue and they exist too. They too are annoying and numerous, but less common.

Harry Potter, Scott Pilgrim, James Bond, any character Vin Diesel plays, etc.

Mary Sues are called out rightly because they're a shitty trope used by lazy writers. Nobody (with any intelligence or credibility) ever said that George Lucas was a particularly great writer. It's popcorn entertainment for a mass market.

Indiana Jones movies came out in a time where movie studios thought audiences were fucking morons and we have much higher standards today after being fed decades of high-concept movies and television. Hence the flat reception and pushback. Even Crystal Skull had its asshole ripped open by audiences without needing misogyny to be a diversion/excuse to explain the turd released by the studio.

Movies can't cash in by gender/age/race-swapping classic franchises because if you released those movies as they were today they would ALSO bomb. But Hollywood is certainly trying and trying and scratching its head wondering why it isn't working.

Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by emmelaich »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #47
jonathankoren wrote: post #38

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Well, Harrison Ford is literally 80 years old. I think Indiana Jones is about 80 in the latest movie as well. Complaining that a *gasp* woman could beat up an octogenarian is more of a commentary about you than the inevitable march of time.

Nobody should be fighting with 80 year olds. Show them respect (if they lived a decent life) or GTFO.

Then again I'd be wary of fighting Gene Labell (RIP), Patrick Devellerez or this old guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZsfJabI46c

Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by emmelaich »

googlryas wrote: post #11
cbxyp wrote: post #10

Is it impossible the executives had motive to murder?

They murdered the suspect before he committed the crime?

Harrison probably had the complete data from the company ready to go for any purpose. Maybe it was released with a deadman's switch or by a friend after he got suicided.

Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by busterarm »

hospitalJail wrote: post #66
busterarm wrote: post #41

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Advertising to horny people is hilariously effective.

Its one of the primal needs. Its why some companies are so effective at selling Veblen goods to status seekers. When I was growing up, I got abercrombie/american eagle because it was cool to girls. Today teens get Apple/Nike products. Not that any of these actually change your status, but the marketers were able to sell that idea/feeling. As an adult, you see people buying/leasing Tesla's or more expensive cars to do…

I said what I said kind of tongue-in-cheek, because I used to work in advertising.

No, I won't elaborate on it, but the difference in conversion rates between ads of a sexual nature (or even the slightest innuendo of sex) and literally anything else is a huge fucking cliff... and the places where you can even run those ads are super limited.

Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by busterarm »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #60
bozhark wrote: post #50

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If only Reddit knew this

Reddit can also look at all the payments nonsense pornhub has to go through

Or just keeping up with all of the takedown claims resulting from revenge porn, trafficking claims, etc.

Re: Top suspect in 2015 Ashley Madison hack committed suicide in 2014

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Post by edgyquant »

majormajor wrote: post #39
mrleinad wrote: post #33

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The Indiana Jones franchise exists because of the Indiana Jones character. People that go to one of those movies want to see him. If you setup a Mary Sue that treats him like an useless geriatric waste of a man, and finish the movie by having this Mary Sue knock him out, you're basically pissing in your own franchise. And since Harrison Ford won't be able to do another one, this is how the franchise ended, with a sou…

And yet the audience reaction to that has been largely positive - both in aggregate and in the theater I was in - it's the critics that have been more sour compared to how they reacted to Crystal Skull (while the audience disliked that one much more). If you wanna say "don't make a movie about an old version of that character," fine. But give it a fucking break with the idea that the filmmakers are attacking you by s…

“Audiences,” seem to have a very positive reception to every Disney movie no matter how bad it is or the average person thinks it is. This isn’t proof of anything other than Disney has very effective marketing
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