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Customers don't want chat bots

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Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because most companies operate their customer support at extremely basic level and hope that those with complex needs will simply give up in frustration. A lawyer letterhead short-circuits that because companies fear that someone who is actually willing to pay upfront for a lawyer is also going to follow through with a lawsuit or, worse, a complaint to the regulatory agency so they'll kiss asses beyond belief…

Yeah, absolutely. In the Wells Fargo case, thousands of dollars were on the line, so it was absolutely worth the couple hundred dollars for the lawyer. But if I had been disputing a $50 overdraft fee or something like that, I'm not sure what I would have done. (I might contact the CFPB these days, but I think this incident was before they existed.)

The CFPB is completely useless. I've never received a worthwhile response to any complaint I submitted through them, out of the ten or so complaints I've submitted to them in the last ~decade.

They simply forward your complaint to the same barely-literate customer "service" department that created the problem in the first place, so that someone who doesn't understand the problem can cut-and-paste their original response back to you again.

You're given an opportunity to respond after that. You get no response if you explain why the bank's reply wasn't responsive to your complaint. I also once tried cutting-and-pasting several paragraphs of hard-core gay erotic Star Trek fan-fiction (searching-and-replacing one of the main characters' names for that of the bank's CEO, with a note that said, "this is to test if anyone actually reads this"), hoping to get the bank or CFPB to even acknowledge me in a non-automated fashion. I got no indication that they did; not even a "please don't do that again." (I wasn't bold enough to try death threats or child porn, but I'd wager even those would be ignored.)

I wrote my senators and representative in Congress, asking them why the CFPB seemingly ignored complaints. One of them CC'd me on a letter to the CFPB requesting someone contact me. Noone ever did. As far as I can tell, the entire agency is just a black hole for wasting tax dollars, likely a graft to help ex-bank employees collect Federal paychecks and pensions while doing nothing and claiming to be working on "reform."

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn’t this be a perfect use case for a chatbot? Can you elaborate on why you didn’t trust the chat it but would trust a human?

> Wouldn’t this be a perfect use case for a chatbot? It's a horrible case for a chatbot. Basically, when you have a bunch of hopping mad customers, you don't want to rub salt in their wounds. Refusing to answer the phone in such a situation is horrible customer service. Basically, if you refuse to answer the phone and stick out a chat bot, it looks like you're just hiding from your customers. (This should be obvious…

What’s obvious to me is that I’m not calling customer service to talk to or yell at a human. I am calling to get my problem solved. Perhaps you and I have different goals?

> So, for all I know, they could have something that just says, "don't worry, we're working on it," if it detects that my internet is offline. (IE, I don't know if anyone is actually working on it.)

Why would you trust this exact communication from a person over a computer?

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#223
As a customer, I have nothing against chat bots, if they solve my problems.

Last December I had to engage into long chat sessions with airline rep to enquiry about my flight change. I kid you not, they changed my first leg from morning to evening flight, and I only found out when printed boarding pass an evening before. Then I had to change my flight back due to work requirements.

It was not cheap flight: four legs with two connections from Europe to SE Asia business class, so I believe I received a good service. It took about three hours total. My website auth expired, I had to re-login several times. Fortunately, the dialogue kept going during re-logins. I had to wait a lot while call center employee checked everything, and once I found a mistake right before paying a new fare. I got transcripts to email. I would rate a tech behind this conversation as above avarage, but still the overall experience was painful.

If some LLM chat agend could do the same, but quickier and with less errors - I would just be happy about it. I don't see it as an impossible feat, most of the responses are already scripted anyway.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#224

A big part of the problem isn’t actually chat bots even though it may well seem to be. It’s that you can’t pop some system atop a teetering ziggurat of shitty data from mutually incompatible systems and think the fundamental problems are going to just disappear. Example: I am currently executor of my dad’s estate and trying to get various policies and pensions and whatnot transferred into my mother’s name. One compan…

>> and think the fundamental problems are going to just disappear. Au contraire. If you implement things poorly enough then all those people on the phone asking for tech support really do just go away. They learn to solve their own problems. Make your problem-solving/help-line interface sufficiently horrible that it develops a reputation (Google) and they won't even make an attempt to contact you.

Sometimes I think this is the point.

Like lately out cell service has been horrible at the house and my wife keeps asking me to call them but why? It's just going to be screaming into the void of some automated system and nothing will be done.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#225

Typically chatbots that I interact with are just attempting to steer me back towards FAQs. I don’t need a different interface to search your documentation in an attempt to keep me on the cheap customer service path and away from the expensive customer service path. Which isn’t to say they can’t be helpful. I’d much rather chat with a bot than call a person, if the bot is capable of doing the things I need. The thing…

Support Chat: "Thank you for asking about [question], here is a [link to FAQ Page!"

The FAQ Page: "Was this article helpful? If not, contact our support chat!"

Endlessly. It's so stupid.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#226

Our company, a travel provider, has a "chat bot" but it is just the first stage of a layers customer service experience. It is not an AI backed bot, though I'm sure that will come, eventually. The bot can handle basic functions like information, change, and cancel but on more complex servicing, it brings in a human agent. The customer always has the option to request a human agent. This lets customers self service fo…

I'm creating bots like this where the ai enhanced bot is fed a clients docs/industry info, and it's trained on closing techniques specific to the industry and it basically keeps following up on a schedule until the customer decides to book an appt, or opt out of further messages.

I'm planning on other automations in the future for other workflows, but lead closing and appointment setting on autopilot 24/7 with a single monthly fee that's way less than hiring staff(even from India), in the end it's about giving automations knowledge and power through that knowledge but still the end result is a booking or action to often speak with someone after being warmed up.

A friendly non pushy ai sales agent might even be better at sales than a seasoned sales person after some trial and error on training it. My agency is in it's infancy but I'm excited to see what our sales pros can/can't do.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#227
I think the calculus of a company deciding on an imperfect automation (such as self-checkout) is that it either won't prevent a purchase. in the case of chatbots, the purchase already happened, hiring a person to do this is just overhead.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#229

I have never met a chat bot that worked . I try the same question worded 6 different ways, I try asking it to connect me to an actual fucking human being. If it even does I still get stuck in a choice menu at first, which half of the time tells me that I can get help with this via their chat bots and disconnects. Fuck chat bots and the money-saving horse they rode in on.

This exactly. I want a solution to my problem. If an AI can help me, great.

But it's not even close to a human level of service yet.

So I'll always try to get to a human ASAP knowing the AI will just waste my time.

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