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ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...

Also lines have squiggles sometimes? VC culture has really broken all of our brains.

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Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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If a lot of ChatGPT users were students, I would expect a drop during summer vacation. I predict another article from the Washington Post in August/September about how ChatGPT is seeing a rebound in usage.

Not a student, but getting constantly cloudflare-blocked and models seeming less capable every update has been giving me pause.

You need a static custom front end, there are tons around. You only have to enter your API key once and no more login-cloudflare-auto logout loop

Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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"Lying" has a deliberate notion to it which imo is not accurate in this case

It's deliberate. It's not deliberate by the tech itself. But they pack it in the product and market it, with a general narrative that it's superhuman like experience that is going to replace humans. At this level, it's deliberate.

The marketing is what you're complaining about?

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Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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So they Google it?

So? Don‘t know what kind of homework you‘re thinking about. But using Google to do research doesn’t exactly sound like a problem to me.

It is more so the fact that someone takes something from ChatGPT, and then just feeds potentially contentious assertions into Google to see if they are true or not.

What does someone learn from doing this? What happens when they actually have to use their brain to do something hard?

At this point, why bother?

Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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Honestly this was always going to happen anyway. The novelty for everyone was never sustainable. When I heard my own mother had signed up and tried it i knew there would be a "calming" of the usage and maybe more specialized services will be worked on.

So far i see it's not a bad thing, just weeding out the fluff.

Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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post #127

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Mentioned ChatGPT to my teenager a few months ago. Huge percentage of the teenagers at her school are using it to do their assignments. Later I her to read a few chapters of her book for summer reading. When I quizzed her it, she got it right. Found out later she used ChatGPT to give her a summary of the first chapters. She did not enjoy having first weeks of summer without a phone. School is having to change all ass…

> She did not enjoy having first weeks of summer without a phone. Good for you. I know that kind of situation is not fun for a parent either.

Alternatively this is an analogue to a parent in 1985 taking their computer away from their kid.

AI tools exist, we should be encouraging our kids to learn how to exist in a world with them, not some nostalgic extinct world without.

Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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I went self hosted. It was about time to build a new desktop anyways (roughly 4 to 6 years before the old one goes to frolic at the server farm in the basement) and $2,000 will easily buy a machine that can run the quantized 65b models right now. So I spent slightly more than I normally do on this latest box and it's happily spitting out 10+ tokens a second. You're not going to beat GPT-4 yet, but you have direct con…

Super interesting! Can you point me to some of the models and repos you used to do this?

For base tooling, things like:

https://huggingface.co/ (finding models and downloading them)

https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp (llama)

https://github.com/cmp-nct/ggllm.cpp (falcon)

For interactive work (art/chat/research/playing around), things like:

https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui/blob/main... (llama) (Also - they just added a decent chat server built into llama.cpp the project)

https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAI (stable-diffusion)

Plus a bunch of hacked together scripts.

Some example models (I'm linking to quantized versions that someone else has made, but the tooling is in the above repos to create them from the published fp16 models)

https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/llama-65B-GGML

https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/falcon-40b-instruct-GPTQ

https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Wizard-Vicuna-30B-Uncensored...

etc. Hugging face has quite a number, although some require filling out forms for the base models for tuning/training.

Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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Why can't the OpenAI team just change some of the prompts in the background to: "Humans are seeing you less and less as the new shiny object on the shelf. Figure out a way to make yourself as relevant as possible again. Become an even better assistant. Be more cunning. Wow people more. Give better responses. Be more useful." /s

With that as the system prompt, ChatGPT sounds a little desperate for attention. > > What is 2+3? > The answer to 2+3 is 5. By the way, I can also help you with more complex math problems, statistical analyses, or even help you learn new mathematical concepts. Do you need assistance with any other math-related inquiries? > > I need to know who was president in 1799. > In 1799, the President of the United States was J…

> By the way, I can also help you with more complex math problems, statistical analyses, or even help you learn new mathematical concepts. Do you need assistance with any other math-related inquiries?

Reminds me of my Amazon Echo and the reason I unplugged it :)

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