What do I make of these clues? > Frida: I was in the $ROOM from 9:30 to 9:45 > Frida: I saw no one in $ROOM when I arrived at 9:30 > Frida: I saw no one in $ROOM when I left at 9:45 to me, the third clue felt wasted. I had already marked off that nobody was there during that time. but does this also mean that nobody arrived at 9:45, and that nobody left at 9:30? in other words, do these clues tell me that nobody was…
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#32Good fun. I think, though, that precision in language might be a challenge. Some previous comments I concur. Over and above those, I was very strict not to infer anything outside the minimum of what was said. For example, “I was in bedroom from 10:00 to 10:15” does not imply that “I was not in the bedroom before or after that time”. Or, “I didn’t see anyone when I arrived” only means I saw no one in the destination r…
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#33It's a cool idea but it fell a bit flat for me. > However, it's important to note that every clue you view will have an impact on your overall score. Exercise caution and strategic thinking as you navigate through the evidence and interrogate the suspects to piece together the ultimate solution. That sounds great! But what actually happened was I clicked through clue after clue about person X being in room Y at time…
Hi, thanks for the feedback! > That sounds great! But what actually happened was I clicked through clue after clue about person X being in room Y at time Z until I eventually got told what the murder weapon wasn't three times in a row. I didn't feel like I could exercise any caution or strategic thinking; it was just "Nope, this isn't enough information" over and over until "Yes, this is now enough information". I ne…
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, thanks for the feedback! > That sounds great! But what actually happened was I clicked through clue after clue about person X being in room Y at time Z until I eventually got told what the murder weapon wasn't three times in a row. I didn't feel like I could exercise any caution or strategic thinking; it was just "Nope, this isn't enough information" over and over until "Yes, this is now enough information". I ne…
Related to the above, one thing that wasn’t clear to me was whether the first three clues should be sufficient to identify the killer. From a game play perspective, I don’t think that matters because the theoretical high score (assuming you solve it without randomly guessing) could just be lower if you need extra clues for that problem due to the first three not being sufficient. However I couldn’t tell if I was bein…
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#35It's a cool idea but it fell a bit flat for me. > However, it's important to note that every clue you view will have an impact on your overall score. Exercise caution and strategic thinking as you navigate through the evidence and interrogate the suspects to piece together the ultimate solution. That sounds great! But what actually happened was I clicked through clue after clue about person X being in room Y at time…
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#36I think I either missed a clue (i triple checked) or it came down to a guess on the time. I hope it's the former and not the later.
I also had a couple of waste clues. Once I had the murderer, I had a few possibilities of the murder weapon but then clues narrowed that way down. Out of 4 weapon possibilities, having 3 clues say what the weapon wasn't is 1-2 too many, especially that late in the game.
The graph was a little confusing. It's not clear that the relation of the rooms matters from the game/clues, but the graph makes me think it is. (this was written before I saw the how to play link, see below)
I got a constable score. I have no idea if that's a good score or a poor score, probably the later since I went through all the clues.
The how to play link should be at the top in the first set of directions on how to play. I think another commenter said that it takes at least 15 minutes to change rooms. IE in the example if Alice is in the kitchen at 10:15, she couldn't have been in the bathroom at 10:00. She could only be in either the living room or bedroom at 10:00 to be able to be in the bathroom at 10:15. I didn't even make that leap until I had read that comment. Call that out specifically!
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#37Feels like a rough, very early prototype of a cool idea. I think it would be much more interesting if each clue was a question, like, “Frida, which room were you in at 10:30?” etc. Then I would actually need to think about how to use as few clues as possible. Now I don’t think there’s any way to get the answer right except by guessing until all the clues eliminating murder weapons. The UI for filling in who is in whi…
Thanks a lot for the feedback. The website is actually a prototype, with rules subject to change. > I think it would be much more interesting if each clue was a question, like, “Frida, which room were you in at 10:30?” etc. Then I would actually need to think about how to use as few clues as possible. Now I don’t think there’s any way to get the answer right except by guessing until all the clues eliminating murder w…
You can simply flip the hierarchy - the top-level headline should be the person, and the subheading should be the room. That would make exactly the example you give easier, as all the information is collected in one place. And you don’t risk filling in that the person is in two rooms at the same time.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Related to the above, one thing that wasn’t clear to me was whether the first three clues should be sufficient to identify the killer. From a game play perspective, I don’t think that matters because the theoretical high score (assuming you solve it without randomly guessing) could just be lower if you need extra clues for that problem due to the first three not being sufficient. However I couldn’t tell if I was bein…
You are right, it is very very unlikely that the first three clues are enough to identify the killer in any reasonable scenario. The ranking is still very preliminary and it will be improved very soon.
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#39Really cool idea and this reminded me of it. Seems like they could be programmatically similar.
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#40 Dave said: "I saw nobody when I was leaving the living room at 10:30"
Does this mean no one was in the living room when he left it? Or does it mean no one was in the room he entered when he entered it? Or both?What is to stop a person from being in multiple rooms within a 15 minute period?
If a person exits a room at the same time someone else enters it, does either see the other?