There are way more good games for PC than Android, and a lot of Android games are ad-filled garbage. Any bets on when Google kills this product?
I’d bet this is the last we hear of it until the sunset notification.
Android Games on PC
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Windows Subsystem for Android appears to be for Windows 11. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/android/wsa/ This appears to include Windows 10: https://play.google.com/googleplaygames#section-faqs "To participate in the beta, your PC must meet these minimum requirements: Windows 10 (v2004) Solid state drive (SSD) with 10 GB of available storage space IntelⓇ UHD Graphics 630 GPU or comparable 4 CPU physical cor…
There might be a wealth of emulators on PC, but they've seemed pretty sketchy for the ones I've seen.
The purpose of this release, from Google's point of view, is to displace BlueStacks. For as long as I remember, BlueStacks would sell developers all sorts of ecosystem toxic services, like triggering the emulators to download Google Play games to boost download counts.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Windows Subsystem for X naming convention is so annoying. It's an Android Subsystem for Windows, but leave it to Microsoft to make sure their product name comes first.
Do you think the Firefox plugin for 1password (random example) is a plugin that runs inside 1password and allows you to use Firefox? Does the Linux driver for ext4 allow you to use a Linux kernel from within the driver, or the other way around? WSA is a "Windows subsystem" that allows you to run Android. That's it. But leave it to HN to always have someone make the exact same comment whenever WSL or WSA is mentioned.
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Re: Android Games on PC
#114Is there a way to jailbreak this to run arbitrary apps?
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I concur. May also suggest Google to work on their "retied projects" archives directly, rather than repeat this cycle of wasted energy. Waiting for Voice to die. I thought it would immediately follow gTalk.
well that's something I haven't considered. I wonder if the number would be transferrable to a different service. I'm using that instead of my own phone number for sites that only offer SMS verification.
Yes, it can be ported.
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#116Is there a way to jailbreak this to run arbitrary apps?
Yes, you can already run Android emulators on PC, rooted, to play various games.
Professional mobile game Esports stars do this, because it makes streaming much more easier. While it might sound funny for a Westerner, some games like Freefire have their player count in tens of millions of people. They are popular in developing countries where people cannot afford PC or a console.
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/224119/how-to-ga...
I do not know if Google Play has some kind of distribution limits to prevent installing within an emulator, but those would be quite trivial to work around. AFAIK there is not any kind of “real device id” system being used, although it would be dearly needed because of the cheaters.
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#117Oh boy, millions of ad-ridden, pay-to-win, copy-pasted virtual casinos, right from the convenience of my PC. Gotta get me one of those beta invites!
Millions of bad games do not make the few good games bad. You could use the same argument against Steam.
False equivalence. The scale of the problem is not even remotely close.
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#118Some PM and VP probably looked for ways to increase the P&L. I've talked with many googlers, and they interviewed me for leadership positions related to gaming before. I do not like their approach. No gamer wants this. I'm not even sure gaming on Android is even close to what it should be on mobile. PC gamers, the ones who buy ssds, gaming gpus, want 4k 60fps, you're telling me they want to use mobile games in a vm o…
> PC gamers, the ones who buy ssds, gaming gpus, want 4k 60fps, you're telling me they want to use mobile games in a vm or wrapper or whatever? This isn’t for that kind of PC gamers, its for Android gamers that happen to have a PC (which is probably a much larger market, in terms of people.) > There is no way one of these execs is a serious gamer, like the ones they're courting. They aren’t courting serious gamers, t…
That's understood. That market is decreasing rapidly tear over year. In addition, casual gaming on PC is a very small market, and laptops aren't equipped to be good at mobile inputs. It's really unlikely that they will be able to succeed at courting mobile gamers.
If Android had continuous cloud saves, a centralized ID for every game, achievements, cross device play, standardized keyboard and touchpad controls, this would be a much easier sell. They'd be like GamePass. This is unlikely to get support and be delightful.
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#119You can already do this on PC using the Windows Subsystem for Android. The major issue surrounding WSA was that it was too technical to setup for most PC users so we built an app for our non-technical users to solve this. Right now, Google building a standalone app for only Android games (people use Android apps fairly on par with games on PC) and then insisting on a slow rollout will most likely make the product go…
This is basically Google's reaction to Windows Subsystem for Android. Note that WSL was born out of the first attempt to have Android support on UWP.
What's sad is that this Android support on Windows Mobile was actually really good. I had a demo device with an experimental build and Android apps were only as sluggish as... well... Android. A Microsoft run by a CEO with more backbone wouldn't have caved and started selling Androids.
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#120Oh boy, millions of ad-ridden, pay-to-win, copy-pasted virtual casinos, right from the convenience of my PC. Gotta get me one of those beta invites!
Millions of bad games do not make the few good games bad. You could use the same argument against Steam.
You know full well Steam's library is not at all comparable to what's available on mobile. There are thousands of quality games on Steam. How many mobile games are out there that are quality crafted experiences, and not just endless grinding to squeeze as much money as possible out of the user?
I recall seeing a handful come out ~10 years ago, like The Room and Monument Valley. These days the best ones to come out are PC/console games that just so happened to get mobile ports like Papers Please or Slay the Spire.