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Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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It's surreal that even when it comes to AI we still fundamentally rely on underpaid labor.

It's not underpaid. The people are willing to work for that money.

The one does not exclude the other.

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

#102

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It's surreal that even when it comes to AI we still fundamentally rely on underpaid labor.

It's not underpaid. The people are willing to work for that money.

When is someone underpaid though?

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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I will root for AI a lot more readily when we have a good alternative (UBI?) for people whos jobs are being displaced faster than they can retrain Y'all cheerleaders are going to create an underclass the likes of which you've never seen before. I hope they take up torches and pitchforks

When AI can solve most problems we have, we will have UBI because most will not need to work, but pessimists will say we will all lost jobs.

Or, more likely, if people no longer need to work they no longer provide utility and are dead weight that needs to go.

I don’t think work will go away, it will just change, maybe too quickly for people to keep up.

Post AGI nobody knows. It’s debatable that humans will still have a place in an AGI world. But that’s also much further away than people seem to think. I don’t expect to see it in my lifetime (next 40-60 years).

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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It's surreal that even when it comes to AI we still fundamentally rely on underpaid labor.

It's not underpaid. The people are willing to work for that money.

Apparently they are not paid enough to deter them from cheating.

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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I will root for AI a lot more readily when we have a good alternative (UBI?) for people whos jobs are being displaced faster than they can retrain Y'all cheerleaders are going to create an underclass the likes of which you've never seen before. I hope they take up torches and pitchforks

When AI can solve most problems we have, we will have UBI because most will not need to work, but pessimists will say we will all lost jobs.

> we will have UBI

or those who become unneeded would simply starve to death, or have to compete to get the last vestiges of available jobs.

I know which is more likely, from looking back at history.

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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When AI can solve most problems we have, we will have UBI because most will not need to work, but pessimists will say we will all lost jobs.

Do you need to work now? When is the crossover where you won't need to work? I live in a country where the government is actually calling for an INCREASE in work. When in history have we ever decreased the workload with the reason "well we don't need to produce any more"?

Yeah every breathless fucking advertisement and news article talking about the latest tech advance for the last 50 years has been promising to make like easier and with less work.

Yet all this tech stuff does is create even more. Working hours are up and productivity is down, and purportedly nobody knows why.

I want my 4 hour workday, goddammit

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

#107

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It's not underpaid. The people are willing to work for that money.

When is someone underpaid though?

When they could paid more in their current situation with a job they can both get and would enjoy the same amount.

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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post #104

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It's not underpaid. The people are willing to work for that money.

Apparently they are not paid enough to deter them from cheating.

The history of white collar crime by execs suggests there’s not an amount that’s enough to stop cheating

Re: Mechanical Turk workers are using AI to automate being human

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> Mapmakers deliberately put slight mistakes in their maps so they can tell when someone copies them. If another map has the same mistake, that's very convincing evidence. http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

> What scares me is that there are moral fashions too. They're just as arbitrary, and just as invisible to most people. But they're much more dangerous. Fashion is mistaken for good design; moral fashion is mistaken for good. What dog whistling drivel. That dude's trying so hard to use fancy words and walls of texts to defend his racist views without stating them outright. This is coming from a person who previously…

What's the source on that quote? I searched it and this thread is the only result.

Edit: I found the context around it, at least. Seems perfectly reasonable. [1]

"Recently Inc published an interview in which I said we'd noticed a correlation between founders having very strong foreign accents and their companies doing badly.

Some interpreted this statement as xenophobic, or even racist—as if I'd said that having a foreign accent at all was a problem.

But that's not what I said, or what I think. No one in Silicon Valley would think that. A lot of the most successful founders here speak with accents.

The case I was talking about is when founders have accents so strong that people can't understand what they're saying. I.e. the problem is not the cultural signal accents send, but the practical difficulty of getting a startup off the ground when people can't understand you."

[1]: http://www.paulgraham.com/accents.html

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