Too bad it was Windows only.
I'm thinking playing Genshin on my Linux Laptop instead of my potato phone
Android Games on PC
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Re: Android Games on PC
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
It can, but it comes with the Amazon app store by default. There are projects around that integrate Play and Magisk.
It looks like they work by patching the WSA installer to get root ? There's a leap of trust needed, as we'd be putting our google credentials into it, but I guess that's par for the course for what is kind of a jailbreak. Looking at this as an example: https://github.com/WSA-Community/WSAGAScript
While it's not necessarily a jailbreak (the OS itself isn't the one preventing you from messing with these files) it's very close to injecting Google Play into an Android ROM that doesn't come with it (like custom ROMs, or maybe Chinese import phones).
Google Play isn't just an app you install, you to give it quite a few system level permissions for it to work right. Without root access and a patched system image, Google Play simply can't work right.
Compare it to getting Apple's iPadOS store to work on macOS or iOS. You can't just extract an .ipa and install it like with other apps, you need to modify the surrounding system and drag over some support libraries or the entire thing won't even be able to start. Or try installing Windows 11's file explorer on Windows 10, you'll need the same level of messing about with dependencies and system integration.
One major difference between the unofficial method and the Google method is that there's an API Google uses for remote attestation (SafetyNet) that requires root access to sort-of bypass, but can't be bypassed entirely. If Google's package contains the code to certify the PCs running it, that'd make DRM compatibility possible without hacks upon hacks.
Re: Android Games on PC
#103Oh boy, millions of ad-ridden, pay-to-win, copy-pasted virtual casinos, right from the convenience of my PC. Gotta get me one of those beta invites!
Millions of bad games do not make the few good games bad. You could use the same argument against Steam.
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#104You can already do this on PC using the Windows Subsystem for Android. The major issue surrounding WSA was that it was too technical to setup for most PC users so we built an app for our non-technical users to solve this. Right now, Google building a standalone app for only Android games (people use Android apps fairly on par with games on PC) and then insisting on a slow rollout will most likely make the product go…
Why are people using BlueStacks if WSA exists? It seems to be the standard way to play Android games on PC.
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#105why
Perhaps because with existing emulation you don't (easily) get the play services, with this you will easily be able to pay for microtransations to "win" in your games and google gets their 30% cut of those. Its also easier so more people will use it and pay to win. Perhaps it also gives them more data on their users since they can directly snoop on everything running, connected to or stored on the Windows system, play store services running on an emulator is less useful to google.
Re: Android Games on PC
#106You can already do this on PC using the Windows Subsystem for Android. The major issue surrounding WSA was that it was too technical to setup for most PC users so we built an app for our non-technical users to solve this. Right now, Google building a standalone app for only Android games (people use Android apps fairly on par with games on PC) and then insisting on a slow rollout will most likely make the product go…
Why are people using BlueStacks if WSA exists? It seems to be the standard way to play Android games on PC.
BlueStacks has recently ramped up the number of ads. It seems like the management know their days are numbered and are seeking to maximise remaining revenues.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rollercoaster Tycoon has an excellent version of RC2 for tablets (and I suppose phones). There are also plenty of other games on the Play Store that are decent ports from desktop games or even purely mobile. I've bought a copy of Super Hexagon for Android at some point, and that's still an excellent game. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to play that on desktop as well now that Windows has native Android support…
Open Rollercoaster Tycoon is free and cross platform https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2 (been having fun going back to play older simulation games)
OpenRCT2 still requires the original game files according to the README.
Plus, RCT being RCT, if you have access to the original game you can probably just install and run that. I haven't seen an x86 compatible system yet that doesn't run RCT2, especially with Wine and QEMU providing fast enough Windows/instruction set emulation to play 2D games from that era on just about any device.
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#108No.
Re: Android Games on PC
#109Some PM and VP probably looked for ways to increase the P&L. I've talked with many googlers, and they interviewed me for leadership positions related to gaming before. I do not like their approach. No gamer wants this. I'm not even sure gaming on Android is even close to what it should be on mobile. PC gamers, the ones who buy ssds, gaming gpus, want 4k 60fps, you're telling me they want to use mobile games in a vm o…
> PC gamers, the ones who buy ssds, gaming gpus, want 4k 60fps, you're telling me they want to use mobile games in a vm or wrapper or whatever?
This isn’t for that kind of PC gamers, its for Android gamers that happen to have a PC (which is probably a much larger market, in terms of people.)
> There is no way one of these execs is a serious gamer, like the ones they're courting.
They aren’t courting serious gamers, they are courting people who already play mobile games.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you saying that because Google wont be invested in this and trying to figure out how to make money off it, that will be what kills it in the end? Seems right.
What I’m saying is that the product landscape is already quite mature. The product adds nothing new or spectacular to the landscape. They will struggle with internal motivation to maintain an also-ran product.
What are the current products in this space? I am aware of Bluestacks, I used to use that a while ago. Have not kept up with competition, so this looks like a good starting point for me to get back into it.