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Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by 2rsf »

jfim wrote: post #16
echelon wrote: post #10

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I really love Obsidian, I still have some major blockers. The git plugin is dangerously broken. I've had pushes from different computers overwrite one another. It doesn't show merge conflicts - it's happy to plow forward. I've reduced my usage since that happened. This is a huge problem. I need to have confidence the backups and merges aren't destroying notes. There's no easy way to open multiple workspaces simultane…

Out of curiosity, what's the rationale for using git? Is it to get a history of notes or just for sync? If it's the latter, I believe obsidian has a paid offering for that, or one can MacGyver it with syncthing.

With git you are less bound to a specific provider and your "software driver" is simpler and more standard

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by majani »

stevefan1999 wrote: post #252

In case if you want some Evernote alternatives, here's my shortlist: 1. Trilium Notes: https://github.com/zadam/trilium 2. AppFlowy: https://github.com/AppFlowy-IO/AppFlowy 3. Affine: https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE 4. Joplin: https://github.com/laurent22/joplin 5. Dendron: https://github.com/dendronhq/dendron (requires VSCode) As a programmer I liked Dendron the most but if you want it to be packed with absol…

Google Keep for people who just want a Notepad that syncs

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by Zandikar »

emodendroket wrote: post #536
KennyBlanken wrote: post #434

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Electron is the single biggest scourge to end users since Windows ME.

Is it really though? I feel like it’s allowing many clients to exist that otherwise wouldn’t ever get written.

I see your a quantity over quality type.

Electron is a great tool tbh, I'm not on the hate train, but let's not pretend like electron is some bastion of quality or performance. People's grievances are legitimate, and part of that reason is just how low the bar is to ship something with it. Great for tinkerers, but sours normal users.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by majani »

shusaku wrote: post #37
teeray wrote: post #5

The new features will be feeding everyone's notes into an LLM and then screaming "AI!" at the top of their lungs to investors.

You can already do this with Evernote in fact, it’s called “AI cleanup”. It’s not that good now but I like the idea of having an AI format everything cleanly

Sounds like spellcheck with write permissions to me

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by posix_compliant »

woodardj wrote: post #336

There's lots of discussion here about the pros and cons of Evernote, and a slew of alternatives, but this HN post is the only result online since February (when there was lots of news about a Bending Spoons/Evernote layoff), what's the source for this July update?

I only have anecdotal information, but my wife worked for Evernote and was let go as part of this acquisition, along with the rest of the marketing team.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by rahoulb »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #496
prepend wrote: post #332

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I think it’s an example of trying to charge for things that are low value, and, more importantly, low cost. Storing text files in the cloud is super cheap. And having an app to easily edit those files is super cheap. It was free in the beginning because this is a “classic” software problem where it’s cheap to develop and close to $0 marginal dollars for a user. When Evernote started charging for dumb features and loc…

> I think Evernote’s problem is that it should have just stayed a 1-2 person company. They ramped up costs, then pushed up prices, and customers mehhed out. This is the problem with most VC funded startups. You have millions invested into an app that really is a glorified CRUD service that somehow ends up with a team of 500 engineers, and 3000 more employees. When it comes time to actually make a profit, these compan…

In general I would agree but the hardest part of any success is getting the word out there.

Especially for double-sided markets like food delivery where you have a chicken and egg problem - why providers sign up when there aren’t users and why would users sign up when there aren’t any providers.

That’s a human problem, not a technical one, and is the expensive bit.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by BigBar »

kepano wrote: post #456
BigBar wrote: post #328

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I use Obsidian for quite a few things, but I view Obsidian and Evernote as different apps functionally. I can't email notes into Obsidian. Obsidian doesn't have a web clipper, note reminders, markup tools. I mean sure, I could cover some of that with plug-ins, but at a certain point things become inconvenient. For text-only notes Obsidian is great. For web clips, emailing notes in, multimedia, I just find EN much eas…

Obsidian Web Clipper: https://stephanango.com/obsidian-web-clipper

Tried it. Forcing multimedia into a text editor doesn't always work the best.

I do use Obsidian for text notes that are of my own making, but for pulling in media and other file types, I find a tool like EN so much easier to use.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by mmchicago »

civilized wrote: post #400

My Evernote use peaked in 2013-2014, during a whirlwind postdoctoral fellowship. Man, I loved that thing. So simple and responsive. It was a real tool of thought, and I used it for everything. From then on, it got worse and worse every time I "upgraded", and I basically stopped using it since 2016 or so. Yesterday I "upgraded" at its urging, against my better judgment, and was greeted with a lovely surprise: no local…

You took the words out of my mouth. Exactly my experience, except I deleted my account in 2020. Evernote taught me to stop trusting startups with critical services, to manage my own notes, and to always have an exit strategy.
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