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Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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You do realize the irony in that statement, correct?

This isn't ironic, they aren't questioning or otherwise probing motives

Well, they are questioning the motivation to question the motivation of others. Assuming that this invalidates their point would, however, be a logical fallacy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

#82

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Such as?

such as the ability easily support redaction of personal data? Errg: sorry folks. I miss read the thread and thought the "such as" was responding to the comment next to it about the design flaw of not being able to delete personal data.

That doesn’t sound like an edge case.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

#83

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Such as?

such as the ability easily support redaction of personal data? Errg: sorry folks. I miss read the thread and thought the "such as" was responding to the comment next to it about the design flaw of not being able to delete personal data.

And this is nasty because?

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

#84
post #49

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

Not sure I buy this. Some of the EU stuff is good, I think a lot of it goes to far and it's a terrible nightmare to navigate now, never mind in a decade when we're all using software that doesn't exist yet.

The idea that GDPR is a nightmare to navigate is entirely fud. It's pretty clear and the case law has in the main been established. Most of the time when people are saying that it is a nightmare to navigate what they actually mean is they don't like the privacy protections that it gives to EU data subjects and the implications for the data harvesting they want to do as part of their business.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

#85

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Such as?

such as the ability easily support redaction of personal data? Errg: sorry folks. I miss read the thread and thought the "such as" was responding to the comment next to it about the design flaw of not being able to delete personal data.

That's not an edge case in the law, that's a limitation in your system.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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If your problem is with the ownership of Twitter, I don’t understand why you would run from the arms of one wannabe cage-fighter into another’s. If your problem is with ethics, FB isn’t a beacon of good behavior. If your problem is getting rate-limited or losing your blue checkmark, I guess go wild, but you probably already loved Twitter too much to leave.

No my problem with Twitter is that the quality of the discourse is poor and getting worse every day. Which is a direct result of Musk deciding to prioritise blue check comments over others. If you're having to pay to have people listen to you then that means you typically don't have something worth saying. And we see this manifest in many ways e.g. pages of laughing emojis in response to a tweet.

> If you're having to pay to have people listen to you then that means you typically don't have something worth saying.

This basically invalidates all of advertising in one stroke.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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post #86

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No my problem with Twitter is that the quality of the discourse is poor and getting worse every day. Which is a direct result of Musk deciding to prioritise blue check comments over others. If you're having to pay to have people listen to you then that means you typically don't have something worth saying. And we see this manifest in many ways e.g. pages of laughing emojis in response to a tweet.

> If you're having to pay to have people listen to you then that means you typically don't have something worth saying. This basically invalidates all of advertising in one stroke.

That's correct. I think this is how most people see advertising.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Imo it's about using instagram data for threads(following same people). Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there

The UK is working on a separate data protection law and the attitude towards privacy is very different from the EU (hence the rewrite)

The UK has a separate data protection law (UK GDPR[1]) which is the more or less same as the EU. The current government held a consultation on possible changes[2], but I would doubt they could actually carry through on making a significant change given their current weak and divided state and the likelihood they will lose in the next general election.

[1] https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/w-026-8528?contex...

[2] https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/data-a-new-direc...

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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post #87
post #86

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> If you're having to pay to have people listen to you then that means you typically don't have something worth saying. This basically invalidates all of advertising in one stroke.

That's correct. I think this is how most people see advertising.

Advertising works extremely well precisely because most people are aware that many brands with something of value are also willing to pay for ads. Look at Apple.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

#90

If your problem is with the ownership of Twitter, I don’t understand why you would run from the arms of one wannabe cage-fighter into another’s. If your problem is with ethics, FB isn’t a beacon of good behavior. If your problem is getting rate-limited or losing your blue checkmark, I guess go wild, but you probably already loved Twitter too much to leave.

I don't use Twitter or Facebook or IG so I also won't be using Zuck's new thing. That said, I did a quick straw poll of some non-tech relatives who have not expressed to me any previous opinion either way about Elon Musk and the takeover and got told "Twitter is really weird now and full of ads" and "I can't find anything any more". Anecdotal, but it seems to me twitter would be vulnerable if enough users felt that way. All of the people I spoke with in this very non-scientific and non-representative sample already have instagram accounts so it would be pretty easy for them to move over.

A lot of the prominent accounts seem to be moving. It may be because they want a general public square rather than Elons personal website. It may be because they are worried that the rate limiting etc is going to affect what they do to monitor their reach, understand their audience etc.

Either way I don't think their problems fall into any of the categories you've given exactly, but if the people someone likes to follow on twitter move to threads, the likelihood is that person will move to threads, especially if they are somewhat dissatisfied because the app is becoming weird and stuffed with ads.

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