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How up to date is it? That might be attractive after years of Ubuntu. How is the proprietary driver support?
Pretty darn up to date. Tbh I think it's not unusual for it to be more to date than the current Ubuntu stable (which I thought started out as a snapshot of Sid). As for proprietary drivers, the non-free repos have traditionally carried everything I need.
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This model destroys any reason for software to be open source. What's the point of having source code if you just run the binary provided by some party? Reminds me of the early days of the tensorflow where everyone used whatever binary package worked an no one could run anyone else's code because people kept getting stale binaries somewhere in the stack.
The packaging format doesn't change source code availability or restrictions.
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Oh, I have quite a few of them, from increased resource usage, proprietary aspects, through forced updating and more. The forced updating is particularly unacceptable. But, the 10,000 ft view is that they reduce the amount of control I have over my system. They offer restrictions I chafe at while giving me no benefit that I care about. I'm not going to sit here and say they shouldn't exist. That they're not to my tas…
It's a quite powerful idea to run every package in its own container (sandbox). However, it depends on the implementation and Snap just sucks. (Note that the default Unix assumption is that no users can be trusted but all applications can be trusted, which is wrong imho. Containers provide a way out of this, but things get messy very fast.).
It is, but I also actively don't want every package to run in its own container. I'd rather containerize select applications that I choose.
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or popOS
Is Pop!OS a viable alternative to Ubuntu? I don't like Snaps but I like the fact that all my hardware (even my nVidia GPU) is supported. I think rolling release would be better, though, even if stuff breaks once in a while.
https://iso.pop-os.org/22.04/amd64/nvidia/31/pop-os_22.04_am...
Works great on my machine with a RTX 2060.
I think I'll try Linux Mint out. Or maybe it's time to go back to my beloved Debian, which I abandoned because of Ubuntu when Ubuntu was still not too filled with crap.
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Is Pop!OS a viable alternative to Ubuntu? I don't like Snaps but I like the fact that all my hardware (even my nVidia GPU) is supported. I think rolling release would be better, though, even if stuff breaks once in a while.
Pop OS with Nvidia drivers ISO: https://iso.pop-os.org/22.04/amd64/nvidia/31/pop-os_22.04_am... Works great on my machine with a RTX 2060.
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Oh, I have quite a few of them, from increased resource usage, proprietary aspects, through forced updating and more. The forced updating is particularly unacceptable. But, the 10,000 ft view is that they reduce the amount of control I have over my system. They offer restrictions I chafe at while giving me no benefit that I care about. I'm not going to sit here and say they shouldn't exist. That they're not to my tas…
Alpine feels a lot like a BSD to me, and I’m very happy with it. But this bloatification is happening all over the place. Firefox is starting to have more and more dependency on flatpak’s daemons, even if you don’t use flatpak. These daemons are becoming the de facto standard for some interfaces too sadly. This also means that a lot of software is a lot less portable.
I'm saddened to hear that FF has dependencies on flatpack daemons, but I'm not surprised by it. The direction Linux is going seems very clear to me, and I expect more of that sort of thing as time goes on.
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Pop OS with Nvidia drivers ISO: https://iso.pop-os.org/22.04/amd64/nvidia/31/pop-os_22.04_am... Works great on my machine with a RTX 2060.
Hmm, why is it an ISO, rather than getting the drivers from a server afterwards? I have a few devices that need proprietary drivers, do I need to do the same for the others?
"If you have NVIDIA graphics, download the ISO with the proprietary NVIDIA driver preinstalled."
There is also a non-Nvidia ISO:
https://iso.pop-os.org/22.04/amd64/intel/31/pop-os_22.04_amd...
As well as Raspberry Pi:
https://iso.pop-os.org/22.04/arm64/raspi/4/pop-os_22.04_arm6...
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What are your concerns?
Oh, I have quite a few of them, from increased resource usage, proprietary aspects, through forced updating and more. The forced updating is particularly unacceptable. But, the 10,000 ft view is that they reduce the amount of control I have over my system. They offer restrictions I chafe at while giving me no benefit that I care about. I'm not going to sit here and say they shouldn't exist. That they're not to my tas…
- you're a hardcore oriented distro, you assume most things will be built from source, follow all of your dependencies and maintain the glue for your distro. Gentoo/Slackware style。
- you value convenience and go the snaps/flatpack route.
And you can still go the convenience path while building some specific apps from source, but there will be a bigger gap to bridge and it won't make sense formost applications.
I get the shift, as we're already seeing it, even outside the cloud, I think it's still the best of both worlds. I compare that to how I'm running a natively compiled postgres version but a containerized mysql because it was too much of a pain to match all the dependencies.