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Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by swyx »

benjamoon wrote: post #168
swyx wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Could it be just my region that is affected? as far as I know OpenAI only has one region, that is out in Texas. even more hilariously, as far as I can tell, Azure OpenAI -also- only has one region.. cant imagine why

Totally wrong, Azure has loads of regions. We’re using 3 in our app (UK, France and US East). It’s rapid.

ah i am out of date then. i was going off this page https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/cognitive-... which until last month was showing only 1 region

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by mike_hearn »

azemetre wrote: post #80
mike_hearn wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT is definitely more restricted than the API. Example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36179783

That's disappointing, I thought ChatGPT WAS using the API. I mean what's the point of paying if you don't get similar levels of quality?

I thought that too. It's certainly how they present it. But, apparently not.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by alpark3 »

>Developers wishing to continue using their fine-tuned models beyond January 4, 2024 will need to fine-tune replacements atop the new base GPT-3 models (ada-002, babbage-002, curie-002, davinci-002), or newer models (gpt-3.5-turbo, gpt-4). Once this feature is available later this year, we will give priority access to GPT-3.5 Turbo and GPT-4 fine-tuning to users who previously fine-tuned older models. We acknowledge that migrating off of models that are fine-tuned on your own data is challenging. We will be providing support to users who previously fine-tuned models to make this transition as smooth as possible.

Wait, they're not letting you use your own fine-tuned models anymore? So anybody who paid for a fine-tuned model is just forced to repay the training tokens to fine-tune on top of the new censored models? Maybe I'm misunderstanding it.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by santiagobasulto »

moffkalast wrote: post #119
santiagobasulto wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I felt the same thing. The first version of GPT-4 I tried was crazy smart. Scary smart. Something happened afterwards…

The even more interesting part is that none of us got to try the internal version which was allegedly yet another step above that.

True. The one that is referenced in that "ChatGPT AGI" youtube video, right?

the one from a MS researchers that has been recommended to all of us probably. Good video btw.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by ftxbro »

> "Starting today, all paying API customers have access to GPT-4."

OK maybe I'm stupid but I am a paying OpenAI API customer and I don't have it yet. I see:

    gpt-3.5-turbo-16k
    gpt-3.5-turbo
    gpt-3.5-turbo-16k-0613
    gpt-3.5-turbo-0613
    gpt-3.5-turbo-0301
I don't see any gpt-4

Edit: Probably my problem is that I upgraded to paid API account within the last month, so I'm not technically a "paying API customer" yet according to the accounting definitions.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by michaelmu »

furyofantares wrote: post #78

Not a lot of talk of Whisper being available here. From using voice in the ChatGPT iOS app, I surmise that Whisper is very good at working out what you've actually said. But it's really annoying to have to say my whole bit before getting any feedback about what it's gonna think I said. Even if it's getting it right at an impressive rate. Given this is how OpenAI themselves use it (say your whole thing before getting…

One speculative thought about the purpose of Whisper is that this will help unlock additional high-quality training data that's only available in audio/video format.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by codazoda »

ftxbro wrote: post #176

> "Starting today, all paying API customers have access to GPT-4." OK maybe I'm stupid but I am a paying OpenAI API customer and I don't have it yet. I see: gpt-3.5-turbo-16k gpt-3.5-turbo gpt-3.5-turbo-16k-0613 gpt-3.5-turbo-0613 gpt-3.5-turbo-0301 I don't see any gpt-4 Edit: Probably my problem is that I upgraded to paid API account within the last month, so I'm not technically a "paying API customer" yet according…

> Today all existing API developers with a history of successful payments can access the GPT-4 API with 8K context. We plan to open up access to new developers by the end of this month, and then start raising rate-limits after that depending on compute availability.

Same for me. I signed up only a few days ago and was excited to switch to "gpt-4" but I haven't paid the first bill (save the $5 capture) so I probably have to continue to wait for this.

I made a very simple command-line tool that calls the API. You run something like:

    > ask "What's the opposite of false?"
https://github.com/codazoda/askai

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by benjamoon »

swyx wrote: post #171
benjamoon wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally wrong, Azure has loads of regions. We’re using 3 in our app (UK, France and US East). It’s rapid.

ah i am out of date then. i was going off this page https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/cognitive-... which until last month was showing only 1 region

Whoops, should confirm, we’re using turbo 3.5, not 4.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by fnordpiglet »

alpark3 wrote: post #174

>Developers wishing to continue using their fine-tuned models beyond January 4, 2024 will need to fine-tune replacements atop the new base GPT-3 models (ada-002, babbage-002, curie-002, davinci-002), or newer models (gpt-3.5-turbo, gpt-4). Once this feature is available later this year, we will give priority access to GPT-3.5 Turbo and GPT-4 fine-tuning to users who previously fine-tuned older models. We acknowledge…

If you don’t own the weights you don’t own anything. This is why open models are so crucial. I don’t understand any business who is building fine tuned models against closed models.
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