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Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by t4ay34565 »

paxys wrote: post #21

An entirely predictable turn of events. Next up: - The lawsuit is never actually filed. Turns out just like Delaware (and unlike the SEC), California courts aren't going to bend to Musk's will. - Twitter continues to bleed users and advertisers. Musk continues to double and triple down on his failed policies. - Musk declares that this was his intention all along with the purchase, and killing Twitter was a "5D chess…

> - Musk declares that this was his intention all along with the purchase, and killing Twitter was a "5D chess move". His fans eat it up.

I think Musk dives further into cultural war nonsense and tries to become a messiahic figure to the right.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by ulfw »

rumblerock wrote: post #26
tw04 wrote: post #14

>Spiro accused Meta of hiring dozens of former Twitter employees who “had and continue to have access to Twitter’s trade secrets and other highly confidential information.” So you fire 80% of your workforce claiming they're dead weight and completely unnecessary, while simultaneously suing their new employer because apparently they were vital cogs who somehow "continue to have access to trade secrets"? So vital you'r…

My question is – what trade secrets does Twitter even have that Meta didn't already have the existing infrastructure for, or competency to build themselves (probably better)?

There's zero "trade secrets" (everyone knows how twitter works) and no technical secrets necessary. Threads is just instagram. It works and looks the same way. Instagram is photos with text, Threads is text with photos. The latter is not exactly rocket science to build when you already have built the former at scale and ran it successfully for years. And that's the genius of it!

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by donmcronald »

paxys wrote: post #21

An entirely predictable turn of events. Next up: - The lawsuit is never actually filed. Turns out just like Delaware (and unlike the SEC), California courts aren't going to bend to Musk's will. - Twitter continues to bleed users and advertisers. Musk continues to double and triple down on his failed policies. - Musk declares that this was his intention all along with the purchase, and killing Twitter was a "5D chess…

> The lawsuit is never actually filed.

If it were, who pays for the court costs? Is that something the taxpayers have to pay for in the US?

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by paxys »

donmcronald wrote: post #43
paxys wrote: post #21

An entirely predictable turn of events. Next up: - The lawsuit is never actually filed. Turns out just like Delaware (and unlike the SEC), California courts aren't going to bend to Musk's will. - Twitter continues to bleed users and advertisers. Musk continues to double and triple down on his failed policies. - Musk declares that this was his intention all along with the purchase, and killing Twitter was a "5D chess…

> The lawsuit is never actually filed. If it were, who pays for the court costs? Is that something the taxpayers have to pay for in the US?

There is a token fee to file a lawsuit, but other than that yes courts are funded by taxes. Both sides have to bring their own lawyers.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by paxys »

bagels wrote: post #31
rumblerock wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My question is – what trade secrets does Twitter even have that Meta didn't already have the existing infrastructure for, or competency to build themselves (probably better)?

They definitely have existing products, knowledge and competency for building a twitter clone that could be adapted for this purpose (instagram/facebook posts & comment systems). Whether they did or not is maybe the question?

Knowledge is not automatically a trade secret. Skills from one job can be freely applied to another. The onus is on Twitter to prove that the employees took something specific (copyrighted code, a patented algorithm implementation, some other asset or IP) which is the property of Twitter and used it to build Threads. The last high profile lawsuit of this nature was Google vs Uber for stolen self driving tech, which had all of this and more.

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Post by SQueeeeeL »

t4ay34565 wrote: post #41
paxys wrote: post #21

An entirely predictable turn of events. Next up: - The lawsuit is never actually filed. Turns out just like Delaware (and unlike the SEC), California courts aren't going to bend to Musk's will. - Twitter continues to bleed users and advertisers. Musk continues to double and triple down on his failed policies. - Musk declares that this was his intention all along with the purchase, and killing Twitter was a "5D chess…

> - Musk declares that this was his intention all along with the purchase, and killing Twitter was a "5D chess move". His fans eat it up. I think Musk dives further into cultural war nonsense and tries to become a messiahic figure to the right.

It's interesting to think if grift of book sales and random convention talks can equal the ~30 billion of material value wiped out by Twitter.

Somewhat reminds me of Andrew Wakefield who went from being a licensed research MD to a guest of honor for "Conspira-Sea", a novelty cruise. Just a complete loss of authenticity and meaningful career prospects.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by activiation »

minimaxir wrote: post #8

Between this and Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's weird tweet about how great Twitter is ( https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1676965566597464065 ), the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter.

Somehow I can read her tweet without logging in...

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by mullingitover »

edavis wrote: post #28
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Between this and Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's weird tweet about how great Twitter is ( https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1676965566597464065 ), the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter.

> the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter I had a similar thought when I joined Threads last night and within 30 seconds saw the accounts of Adam Schefter, Adrian Wojnarowski, and Shams Charania all actively posting. If you follow NFL and NBA news you'll know these names but for anybody that doesn't, these insider accounts are firmly at the center of the NFL and NBA breaking news univer…

It took breathtaking hubris to charge money to the very content creators that kept them alive.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by dvngnt_ »

Dig1t wrote: post #38
optymizer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Meta preventing any other entities from releasing their own Twitter? Nobody's forcing people to use Threads.

That's a good question, the answer to your question is "no". However you can apply the exact same logic to Apple. Is Apple's App Store preventing users from just using an Android phone? Or just launching their own competitor to the iPhone? The answer to that question is also "no". However, there is a lot of discussion around whether Apple is behaving in an anti-competitive way. Same with Google in the online advertis…

it's a bit tougher to compare as IG/threads and Twitter are just websites and phone apps whereas iPhone is the phone and app store that gates access to native applications so it's a level deeper and can be seen more as a utility.
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