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Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by bagels »

rumblerock wrote: post #26
tw04 wrote: post #14

>Spiro accused Meta of hiring dozens of former Twitter employees who “had and continue to have access to Twitter’s trade secrets and other highly confidential information.” So you fire 80% of your workforce claiming they're dead weight and completely unnecessary, while simultaneously suing their new employer because apparently they were vital cogs who somehow "continue to have access to trade secrets"? So vital you'r…

My question is – what trade secrets does Twitter even have that Meta didn't already have the existing infrastructure for, or competency to build themselves (probably better)?

They definitely have existing products, knowledge and competency for building a twitter clone that could be adapted for this purpose (instagram/facebook posts & comment systems).

Whether they did or not is maybe the question?

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by rtsil »

rumblerock wrote: post #26
tw04 wrote: post #14

>Spiro accused Meta of hiring dozens of former Twitter employees who “had and continue to have access to Twitter’s trade secrets and other highly confidential information.” So you fire 80% of your workforce claiming they're dead weight and completely unnecessary, while simultaneously suing their new employer because apparently they were vital cogs who somehow "continue to have access to trade secrets"? So vital you'r…

My question is – what trade secrets does Twitter even have that Meta didn't already have the existing infrastructure for, or competency to build themselves (probably better)?

None. There is no trade secret in building something like Twitter. Anyone on this site can probably make a clone of it.

The real secrets are the massive money needed to promote the network and to pay for the infrastructure, the massive social reach to attract top posters, the massive networking effect needed to make it a must-have app.

Meta already have all of those.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by blastro »

edavis wrote: post #28
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Between this and Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's weird tweet about how great Twitter is ( https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1676965566597464065 ), the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter.

> the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter I had a similar thought when I joined Threads last night and within 30 seconds saw the accounts of Adam Schefter, Adrian Wojnarowski, and Shams Charania all actively posting. If you follow NFL and NBA news you'll know these names but for anybody that doesn't, these insider accounts are firmly at the center of the NFL and NBA breaking news univer…

I wonder if these social platforms may one day become interoperable

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by paxys »

edavis wrote: post #28
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Between this and Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's weird tweet about how great Twitter is ( https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1676965566597464065 ), the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter.

> the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter I had a similar thought when I joined Threads last night and within 30 seconds saw the accounts of Adam Schefter, Adrian Wojnarowski, and Shams Charania all actively posting. If you follow NFL and NBA news you'll know these names but for anybody that doesn't, these insider accounts are firmly at the center of the NFL and NBA breaking news univer…

And the reason they are all immediately on Threads is that they saw the existential threat to their careers when Twitter went private and restricted their accounts to viewing 600/6000 Tweets last week. It's clear that with the daily random rule changes and service interruptions Twitter isn't the reliable platform that they need, and Instagram has a great track record of it.

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Post by prvc »

angry_moose wrote: post #29
tw04 wrote: post #14

>Spiro accused Meta of hiring dozens of former Twitter employees who “had and continue to have access to Twitter’s trade secrets and other highly confidential information.” So you fire 80% of your workforce claiming they're dead weight and completely unnecessary, while simultaneously suing their new employer because apparently they were vital cogs who somehow "continue to have access to trade secrets"? So vital you'r…

> ....former Twitter employees....continue to have access to Twitter’s trade secrets. I don't think I've ever seen anyone admit to major organizational failings like that. I haven't worked for a company in at least 15 years where every single bit of access I had wasn't revoked within minutes. When I last changed jobs in 2021 I watched the Outlook app on my phone. My boss walked me out of the building at 1:00pm, took…

Not the new management's fault.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by sylens »

edavis wrote: post #28
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Between this and Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's weird tweet about how great Twitter is ( https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1676965566597464065 ), the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter.

> the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter I had a similar thought when I joined Threads last night and within 30 seconds saw the accounts of Adam Schefter, Adrian Wojnarowski, and Shams Charania all actively posting. If you follow NFL and NBA news you'll know these names but for anybody that doesn't, these insider accounts are firmly at the center of the NFL and NBA breaking news univer…

People noticed that Twitter was unavailable on the first day of NBA Free Agency. I bet that is typically one of the biggest days on Twitter in terms of activity

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by bugglebeetle »

minimaxir wrote: post #8

Between this and Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's weird tweet about how great Twitter is ( https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1676965566597464065 ), the arrival of Threads is definitely an existential threat for Twitter.

It’s repulsive that I can read this tweet without being logged in and very few others…

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by Dig1t »

optymizer wrote: post #19
Dig1t wrote: post #18

Despite this bone-headed move by Twitter, my question is: does this pose anti-trust problems for Meta? Meta having a monopoly on all forms of social media does seem pretty bad to me. I guess “monopoly” has a specific definition, but by having Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, and the new Twitter, one company will control the majority of normal peoples’ communication online.

Is Meta preventing any other entities from releasing their own Twitter? Nobody's forcing people to use Threads.

That's a good question, the answer to your question is "no".

However you can apply the exact same logic to Apple. Is Apple's App Store preventing users from just using an Android phone? Or just launching their own competitor to the iPhone? The answer to that question is also "no".

However, there is a lot of discussion around whether Apple is behaving in an anti-competitive way. Same with Google in the online advertising market. Given the other ant-trust discussions taking place, I don't think it's ridiculous to ask whether Meta controlling _all_ the platforms on which most communications happen is good for society.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

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Post by [deleted] »

prvc wrote: post #35
angry_moose wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ....former Twitter employees....continue to have access to Twitter’s trade secrets. I don't think I've ever seen anyone admit to major organizational failings like that. I haven't worked for a company in at least 15 years where every single bit of access I had wasn't revoked within minutes. When I last changed jobs in 2021 I watched the Outlook app on my phone. My boss walked me out of the building at 1:00pm, took…

Not the new management's fault.

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