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Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by 13years »

klausa wrote: post #29
13years wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you put a lot of effort into your own creation and then it is rejected because it is flagged as AI, then yes it will matter significantly. 50% of my own art I created is flagged as AI. There may be an appeal process, but the point is AI will make verification of authenticity painful.

You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. My argument isn't "imperfect detection is fine". I'm saying that _you don't need detection at all_. Just make it very clear that AI content is unwelcome on your platform and loudly boot everyone who tries to "experiment" with your limits.

Yes, that is really the only thing that you can do. Set expectations and reasonable heuristics.

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by jujube3 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #3

My favorite passage: "Like the syndicated sports content that makes up much of Deadspin’s daily output, the presumption would be that AI-generated SEO articles like these would help pad the traffic stats of G/O’s sites. However, it’s safe to assume that Google is going to be fairly wary of this kind of useless content, especially since it’s full of inaccuracies and basic grammatical errors. The question quickly becom…

It doesn't seem "safe to assume" that Google's bots will dislike content created by other bots.

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by FormerBandmate »

simonmesmith wrote: post #7
i_am_jl wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The internet is going to become bedlam and madness drowning in the noise of auto generated content. I'm less pessimistic, simply because this content is trash. It's not just that it's inaccurate, it's also that it's uninteresting and repetitive. Who will consume it? If no one will consume it, who will host it, and for what purpose?

I agree. I also keep thinking: If ChatGPT (etc.) can write such content, and I'm interested in it, then why won't I just ask ChatGPT for the information directly rather than going to someone's bloated website?

ChatGPT writes the averagest content possible. Only creatively dead websites will use it

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by tiffanyg »

13years wrote: post #2

The internet is going to become bedlam and madness drowning in the noise of auto generated content. This is just the beginning of the unfolding of an enormous set of unexpected consequences of AI. FYI,I have written extensively on other disruptions that are likely coming "We had hoped technology would replace monotonous tasks while leaving us more time for creative exploration. Instead we are getting exactly the oppo…

What do you mean "going to become"?

I mean, not to just be a jerk or trot out a tired cliche for the heck of it, the "internet" - particularly the web - has, IMO / IME, massively degraded in the past 5 - 7 years. And, unsurprisingly (given the nature of these sorts of processes, looked at either from a more "naive" statistical / distributional POV, or more mechanistically), the rate of degradation is swiftly / noticeably accelerating (i.e., d^2/dx^2 >> 0).

The flood of "AI" BS is just about the most apropos way to continue what's already in motion. A way that could hardly be more perfect - LLMs and the like can work 24/7/365 recursing infinitely until there's no information content left at all, just a "gray goo".

The dark hilarity of our "intelligence" is endlessly amusing to me (yet another stupid human).

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by ufo_kid_zero »

I guess the faux "creatives" will have to actually be creative now. If the content these humans created was so much better than what's generated by AI there wouldn't be any competition.

In this same comment section we see the denial.

"The content it generates is trash" and "We can't distinguish the content generated by AI vs content generated by humans."

I think that tells us all we need to know. Instead of fighting the tide, rise with it.

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by 13years »

tiffanyg wrote: post #34
13years wrote: post #2

The internet is going to become bedlam and madness drowning in the noise of auto generated content. This is just the beginning of the unfolding of an enormous set of unexpected consequences of AI. FYI,I have written extensively on other disruptions that are likely coming "We had hoped technology would replace monotonous tasks while leaving us more time for creative exploration. Instead we are getting exactly the oppo…

What do you mean "going to become"? I mean, not to just be a jerk or trot out a tired cliche for the heck of it, the "internet" - particularly the web - has, IMO / IME, massively degraded in the past 5 - 7 years. And, unsurprisingly (given the nature of these sorts of processes, looked at either from a more "naive" statistical / distributional POV, or more mechanistically), the rate of degradation is swiftly / notice…

I don't disagree, there isn't exactly a test for abstract terms of bedlam and madness. So to whatever degree it already exists, AI will accelerate that an order of magnitude. It is the perfect tool to continue out the self destruction from our attention addiction.

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by web007 »

luma wrote: post #5
Jeff_Brown wrote: post #3

My favorite passage: "Like the syndicated sports content that makes up much of Deadspin’s daily output, the presumption would be that AI-generated SEO articles like these would help pad the traffic stats of G/O’s sites. However, it’s safe to assume that Google is going to be fairly wary of this kind of useless content, especially since it’s full of inaccuracies and basic grammatical errors. The question quickly becom…

> “Who is this for?” The answer is clear as daylight: this is for the shareholders. AI costs less than employee, we put employee money into our pockets instead, end of rationale. The Capitalization of Everything is accelerating and it serves nothing but money.

The good news is that it works both ways! The content is terrible -> Google demotes and/or people stop reading -> shareholder value decreases -> company disappears.

Problem solved.

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by flangola7 »

tiffanyg wrote: post #34
13years wrote: post #2

The internet is going to become bedlam and madness drowning in the noise of auto generated content. This is just the beginning of the unfolding of an enormous set of unexpected consequences of AI. FYI,I have written extensively on other disruptions that are likely coming "We had hoped technology would replace monotonous tasks while leaving us more time for creative exploration. Instead we are getting exactly the oppo…

What do you mean "going to become"? I mean, not to just be a jerk or trot out a tired cliche for the heck of it, the "internet" - particularly the web - has, IMO / IME, massively degraded in the past 5 - 7 years. And, unsurprisingly (given the nature of these sorts of processes, looked at either from a more "naive" statistical / distributional POV, or more mechanistically), the rate of degradation is swiftly / notice…

The decay of internet and digital communication has been undeniably accelerating but this will push it to a level previously thought physically impossible.

The hill we're rolling down continually steepens and indeed is now very steep, but we're about to ignite a 1,000,000 ft-lb rocket booster with the engine nozzle pointed directly at the sky.

Re: G/O Media Incorporating AI-Generated Content

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Post by jakeinspace »

binjooou wrote: post #13
13years wrote: post #2

The internet is going to become bedlam and madness drowning in the noise of auto generated content. This is just the beginning of the unfolding of an enormous set of unexpected consequences of AI. FYI,I have written extensively on other disruptions that are likely coming "We had hoped technology would replace monotonous tasks while leaving us more time for creative exploration. Instead we are getting exactly the oppo…

This why I'm skeptical of superintelligent AI. The output of AI's is essentially lossy, so when you feed that back in as an autonomous loop you get the equivalent of a 100x re-saved jpeg, aka complete garbage. AI's wont have any more useful data to gobble up.

Makes you wonder whether the internet does something similar to our human minds. Too much information feedback and signal loss actually harming our ability to think and understand things deeply.
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