The "Spanish Theory" of software project management • Hacker News Board

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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Post by mathattack » Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 2:06 AM UTC

Drbble wrote: post #22

mathattack wrote: post #15

I was a bignpropknent of OT for non managers since they have less control. The danger with paying managers OT is every hour they do "make work" causes the organization to spend 10 more so you don't want to invent that. OT policies encourage managers to properly staff from the start.

Your concern applies only any creative professional work where time input and work output are not clearly correlated, not just management, though.

The challenge with management is the costs of waste get externalized and multiplied.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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Post by narrator » Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 2:56 AM UTC

stef25 wrote: post #32

I'm in a situation now where, instead of walking 10min / day back and forth to the office my boss is expecting me to commute on buses and trains 4hrs / day (not exaggerating). I consider this extra commuting time as unpaid overtime (up to 20hrs a week, even though I'm not "working") and hence want to deal with it as this article says I should: "No way, I quit". Yet I feel bad about this; what would you do?

One possible compromise is to get a 4g hotspot and work while you are on the bus and only stay in the office for 4 hours.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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Post by ojbyrne » Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 8:07 AM UTC

qntm wrote: post #34

ojbyrne wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In days of yore they had a mechanism so that if an employer ever let it come to that, there would be financial repercussions. I believe they called it "time and a half."

Point being, no amount of money can replace time spent off work with your family. What are you going to do, pay your spouse and children as an alternative to actually eating dinner with them? Only replacement time can make up for that sacrifice.

Actually my point was, that rather than an absolute ("no amount of time can replace time spent off work with family"), there was a market mechanism that did a pretty good job of letting individual employees/employers manage the tradeoffs between work and non-work. Somehow (Republicans) that mechanism became deprecated, and has been replaced by conflict and bullshit.