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Post by cmiles74 »

jsnell wrote: post #172
cmiles74 wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Register has a story about Threads and the permissions it asks for, "Health and Fitness" is indeed on the list. Honestly, it looks like it simply asks for every conceivable permission (what is "Sensitive Info" or "Other Data"?) There's a screenshot at the bottom of the article with the full list. https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/05/threads_comes_to_uk/

Right, this is exactly what I mean. That screenshot is not a list of permissions . That is a screenshot of the Privacy Labels. It's basically a structured form of the app's privacy policy, self-reported by Facebook. Them putting "Health and Fitness" in that list does not in any way grant their app access to any health data on your iPhone. The same is true for literally every other item on that list. It has no impact…

I found some documentation. This is supposed to be an enumeration of all the data that the _application_ collects from the phone. It's surprising to see that the app is collecting health data, presumably the phone prompts a person to grant the permission when they try to fetch that data.

If, as you say, this covers all data "used" in some manner by all Meta apps then I think this is a clear misuse of the policy. Providing a list of labels that includes literally every label isn't helpful to the person deciding if they want to continue using the application or not.

In any case, if Threads doesn't collect health data then, IMHO, the privacy label shouldn't be listed. By Meta's own admission, their app collects this data and posts it back to Meta.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by jsnell »

cmiles74 wrote: post #181
jsnell wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, this is exactly what I mean. That screenshot is not a list of permissions . That is a screenshot of the Privacy Labels. It's basically a structured form of the app's privacy policy, self-reported by Facebook. Them putting "Health and Fitness" in that list does not in any way grant their app access to any health data on your iPhone. The same is true for literally every other item on that list. It has no impact…

I found some documentation. This is supposed to be an enumeration of all the data that the _application_ collects from the phone. It's surprising to see that the app is collecting health data, presumably the phone prompts a person to grant the permission when they try to fetch that data. If, as you say, this covers all data "used" in some manner by all Meta apps then I think this is a clear misuse of the policy. Prov…

Yes, they do need to list the permissions that the app will use. But you're wrong about this being a list of permissions. See https://developer.apple.com/app-store/app-privacy-details/ for what this is.

The list of permissions is a different list, with different contents.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by s__s »

extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

> Right now my For You tab is filled with content I wouldn't have dreamed of a year or two ago, fight videos, videos of people dying, race war, gender war, you name it.

I don’t know anyone with a “For you” tab like that. What’s the explanation? Are you engaging with that kind of content?

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #130
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #19

Half my feed is filled with people sharing their Threads profiles. While I don’t think Meta has the culture to foster the kind of chaotic insanity that goes on at Twitter, Musk better up his game - this is a far more serious mainstream contender than the Fediverse.

Meta is at least claiming this will be part of the Fediverse.

The people who care about the Fediverse won’t touch Meta’s products with a ten foot pole

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

s__s wrote: post #183
extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

> Right now my For You tab is filled with content I wouldn't have dreamed of a year or two ago, fight videos, videos of people dying, race war, gender war, you name it. I don’t know anyone with a “For you” tab like that. What’s the explanation? Are you engaging with that kind of content?

How many other people's "for you" tabs do you regularly look at?

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by hnburnsy »

b0tch7 wrote: post #74
extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

I think you're spot on here. Some very obvious features are missing, but for a v1 launch the app runs smooth, feels clean, is easy to get started, and has a jovial early internet feel. Meta will ship most every feature the average Twitter user would want in the next month or so and then it's game over. Aside, it's amazing how Elon's antics over the last year (or many years) have somehow made Zuck seem both personable…

Why does it have to be game over, personally I am happy about the increased competition and hope that both Meta and X bring their A games.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by brokenbyclouds »

soderfoo wrote: post #140
extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

>Twitter is more hostile than it's ever been. >The first time a blog post is written about the Epic Dunk that AOC had on Ted Cruz... How do you reconcile these two statements? I feel the performative "mic drop" moment is a major source of toxicity on Twitter. A breath of fresh air would be a place that promoted thoughtful and empathetic conversations.

I think that they meant that you'll know Twitter has definitely hit it's decline when other media is focusing on what's happening on other platforms instead of Twitter.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by 6D794163636F756 »

pavlov wrote: post #78
JSavageOne wrote: post #49

I'm not going to download this because there's no web application. It's clear that they intentionally did not release a web application in order to maximize app installs and thus maximum control over their users (eg. scrape your contacts, push notifications, and most importantly to show you ads). In 2023 nobody wants to install yet another app, so this is a clever strategy to optimize for app installs. Not going to w…

Instagram used to be app-only. Since Threads is basically another view into your Instagram account, it makes some kind of sense to start with mobile.

I think they also rusted it out because of the rate limits this week.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by triyambakam »

fennecfoxy wrote: post #129
triyambakam wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

User base if the West, but not predominantly the world

Lmao, the world outside the West is MORE mobile based than the West. Many citizens of many countries can't afford a laptop or desktop setup, go to a small village in Thailand or something and they'll all have cheap Chinese Android phones as their connection to the local outside worlds.

That's what I thought I said. I'm responding to this point:

> you are so far in the niche in today's internet userbase it will not matter

That the idea that a user who wants a web app (mobile first) is niche is only applicable to the West; that most of the rest of the world wants a web app.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by triyambakam »

waihtis wrote: post #23
triyambakam wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

User base if the West, but not predominantly the world

If I had to make a guess I would have supposed non-West to be overwhelmingly mobile first also. Is this not true?

Yes that's what I was intending to say. So I agree with you, that the idea that a user who prefers mobile first being niche is highly specific to the West.
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