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Are you able to name a couple, or even one, if multiple are too hard?
Wagner and its sub Rusich? Both are directly funded by Russia (as recently admitted by Putin himself). You can possibly claim that it is PMC rather than direct Russian military, but then there is the recent ultimatum given to Wagner troops -- Join Russian military ranks or leave.
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Wagner and its sub Rusich? Both are directly funded by Russia (as recently admitted by Putin himself). You can possibly claim that it is PMC rather than direct Russian military, but then there is the recent ultimatum given to Wagner troops -- Join Russian military ranks or leave.
What's the source for Rusich being a part of Wagner? Rusich is despicable.
I wanted to verify sources a bit further myself, but alas: https://i.imgur.com/YxG58lR.png
To be fair, it is silly to even separate them as they're all fighting hand in hand with regular Russian army with Russian army supplies, so for all intents and purposes they were both part of it.
But seeing as the person I was responding to is touting about "powerful Russian military" and "weak Europe" from the comforts of the western middle class, I don't really want to engage in discussion any further.
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The same Michael Colborne this commenter is citing has also written that he "wouldn't call [the Azov Movement] explicitly a neo-Nazi movement", and told Haaretz in 2022: "After the first few years of its formation, only a small minority of members had far right connections. ... The Azov Battalion and the entire Azov movement are almost completely untainted by antisemitism." Not that I'm defending Azov. Just that I do…
"only a small minority of members had far right connections" Of course its commanders are a minority. "untainted by antisemitism" So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews? No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism. "I don't think they really" Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument. "to push people's emo…
We know all about the topic. However, it's clear from the overall tone of how you communicate here (and your endless evasions when cornered on simple factual matters) that you are either not capable of, or are simply not interested in anything even remotely resembling a productive discussion about it.
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He basically admits as such, when he said challenging the nondisparaging clauses in the name of free speech was not worth risking the $40k paycheck.
Even worse than that. She took the $40k in return for agreeing to not disparage VMware. She then immediately started disparaging them, but it was "in private" whatever that means, so she presumed she wouldn't get caught. And then once her preferred candidate is in the White House she figures it's now safe to violate her agreement in public too, thus keeping the $40k AND going back on her word. She stiffed VMware once…
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Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever, as you noticed yourself, it's a PMC, so it's not a part of the military. And the ultimatum confirms that (you cannot demand people who are part of the military to join the military). As for "Rusich" relation to "Wagner" there are just Western journalists claiming that. "Wagner" is not very secretive and Prigozhin is making more videos than s…
"Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever" Well, this sure looks like an evidence of Wagner's commander having a neo-Nazi tattoo [0][1]. Besides Utkin's personality there doesn't seem to be anything else. [0] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/729 [1] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/736
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"only a small minority of members had far right connections" Of course its commanders are a minority. "untainted by antisemitism" So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews? No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism. "I don't think they really" Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument. "to push people's emo…
You mean those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries might learn ... We know all about the topic. However, it's clear from the overall tone of how you communicate here (and your endless evasions when cornered on simple factual matters) that you are either not capable of, or are simply not interested in anything even remotely resembling a productive discussion about it.
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"only a small minority of members had far right connections" Of course its commanders are a minority. "untainted by antisemitism" So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews? No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism. "I don't think they really" Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument. "to push people's emo…
You mean those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries might learn ... We know all about the topic. However, it's clear from the overall tone of how you communicate here (and your endless evasions when cornered on simple factual matters) that you are either not capable of, or are simply not interested in anything even remotely resembling a productive discussion about it.
That wouldn't be the first time when the West uses Nazis against Russia. I hope you just lied and used 'we' instead of 'I'.
The rest of your comment is expectedly lacking any specifics.
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"Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever" Well, this sure looks like an evidence of Wagner's commander having a neo-Nazi tattoo [0][1]. Besides Utkin's personality there doesn't seem to be anything else. [0] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/729 [1] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/736
What's the answer? It doesn't play audio for me.
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What's the source for Rusich being a part of Wagner? Rusich is despicable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group#cite_note-:2-1 I wanted to verify sources a bit further myself, but alas: https://i.imgur.com/YxG58lR.png To be fair, it is silly to even separate them as they're all fighting hand in hand with regular Russian army with Russian army supplies, so for all intents and purposes they were both part of it. But seeing as the person I was responding to is touting about "powerful Rus…
"so for all intents and purposes they were both part of it"
Not really. Rusich is a dirty secret just like Utkin's personality. They are not legitimized in any way. Azov with the Wolfsangel on their banner and Aidar are openly ultra-nationalist and touted by Kyev as heroes.
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"only a small minority of members had far right connections" Of course its commanders are a minority. "untainted by antisemitism" So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews? No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism. "I don't think they really" Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument. "to push people's emo…
You mean those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries might learn ... We know all about the topic. However, it's clear from the overall tone of how you communicate here (and your endless evasions when cornered on simple factual matters) that you are either not capable of, or are simply not interested in anything even remotely resembling a productive discussion about it.
You might be right, actually. Naive and brainwashed Americans supported criminal invasion of Iraq in 2003 on the false pretext. And reelected Bush afterwards. So don't underestimate the power of Western domestic propaganda.