Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
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Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
#302Boss1: let's create a great note taking app Employee1: creates a great note taking app Customers: :) :) :) Boss2: let's milk more money, does anyone have a good idea? Bean Counter: let's add some useless crap, our customer base will quadruple Employee1: ads useless crap Customers: ? ? ? Boss3: let's milk more money, does anyone have a good idea? Bean Counter: let's fire Employee1, hire Employee2 for half the wage and…
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
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> Evernote is a prime example of the pains of trying to convert free users to paying users for the same features I don't think so. They had plenty of paying customers. They claimed to be profitable for a long time (eg https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/evernote-rai... ). They had trouble with (i) implementing big price hikes, and (ii) a poor, bug-filled user experience. While that was going on, they were…
If you're on Windows, OneNote is almost impossible to compete with. Even though it's part of the Office suite, it's a free, stand-alone download. The phone apps are free, and you get 5GB of free storage. Then, for less than the cost of Evernote, you can get a O365 subscription and get the Office suite and 1TB of storage. Even though OneNote is basically a loss-leader, it's extremely powerful and flexible. It's been a…
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
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Have you tried Obsidian? 3 days ago one of the obsidian makers posted this: https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1675626836821409792 Key quote: "These days I write using an app I help make called Obsidian, but it’s a delusion to think it will last forever. The app will eventually become obsolete. It’s the plain text files I create that are designed to last." Seems to align with your philosophy
Obsidian's problem is Sync + Publish costs way too much, esp. when compared with competitors. Notesnook provides almost everything Evernote provides, with encryption, better publishing and syncing. Notion provides more features, incl. publishing and syncing plus the kitchen sink and its factory, yet it doesn't have offline access. For sync + publish, I have to pay 1.5x what Dropbox wants for 2TB of storage, or what T…
You can sync for free using Syncthing or OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox free accounts.
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
Obsidian's problem is Sync + Publish costs way too much, esp. when compared with competitors. Notesnook provides almost everything Evernote provides, with encryption, better publishing and syncing. Notion provides more features, incl. publishing and syncing plus the kitchen sink and its factory, yet it doesn't have offline access. For sync + publish, I have to pay 1.5x what Dropbox wants for 2TB of storage, or what T…
>Obsidian's problem is Sync + Publish costs way too much, esp. when compared with competitors. You can sync for free using Syncthing or OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox free accounts.
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
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What happens if you try to sign up for a new account? Similar level of malfunction, I assume. I am so sick of this reality. Endless dark patterns to get your money. Nearly impossible to get out. Why ever make a good product when you can just seek rent and fall into that perfect optimum of cheap-enough that cancelling is not worth the pain.
This is what virtual Credit Cards are for... Each site gets a separate number and I can expire them as needed. Unfortunately, if they get popular vendors will figure out a way to detect and refuse.
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
#307Minimal's most innovative feature is the Note Lifetime, whereby notes "die" when they go unedited for so many days. (The Note Lifetime is customizable, and notes remain available in a deleted notes folder.) The effect is an always-clean collection of notes that truly reflects the present moment. Another effect is more action on the persistent, good ideas and less action/procrastination on the ideas that might be best let go of.
Anyone interested in helping me improve the app, craft the roadmap, or simply get premium features for free can join the beta at minimal.app/#beta.
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
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Just because a 5xx alert is sent doesn't mean that someone will do anything about it, even if they didn't just lay off the entire staff. I'm sure some PM triaged the 5xx notices and anything coming from close account just gets pushed to the bottom of the queue. Obviously, I have no knowledge if that's what actually happened. I'm just continuing the advocacy of the devil
While that’s clearly true here, it’s a giant red flag if a PM is ignoring… a giant red flag.
I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it's so common with paid software offerings that it's no longer a red flag for me; I just assume that blocking issues that can be presented as only affecting a small number of users will not be addressed, especially if they're considered temporary issues. AWS and Azure certainly aren't paying out a ton when they have outages or system errors that for all intents and purposes render the services offered or machines running on their infrastructure whenever they have issues.†
For me it's hard to escape the conclusion that many services are over-subscribing their Systems and Developer staff across too many things presented as a single service; identity management, compute services, storage services, payment processing, free tiers, and so much more under a single service. A systems error or login problem or the classic Google problem of a single flagged account irradiating everything it touches on the platform is all it takes to completely take down your operations.
And the SLAs/TOS/EULA are quite complex on these platforms; it's hard for me to think that most persons can truly understand what they are agreeing to when signing up for these platforms, including the companies offering the platforms; in my own experience dealing with Storage-aaS vendors who provide S3 storage, it's very hard to get straight answers on outages or massive 5xx situations. (Embarrassingly, said Storage-aaS vendors' support teams have said in no ambiguous way that a 5xx error responses is a _client side error_ that needs to be investigated by the maintainer of the client accessing the S3 services...and I maintain it's incorrect for said vendors to use 503/500 as a response for "please slow down" when we have the 504 "Slow Down" response with S3, or the classic 429 HTTP response could be served instead, both of which are actionable for client applications)
The services are too big and doing too much, and not always very well. And ignoring the "small" interruptions that basically prevent the users of the platforms from doing their work is the norm; if the issue doesn't hit at least double-digit percentages of users, my experience is that the platforms do not budge or move since it can be hand waved away. And the user recourse in such situations is basically non-existent; maybe you'll get some credit, maybe you won't, who knows? The platforms sure don't, despite the monstrous EULAs they ask you to agree to.
I don't know what the answer is, but I really cannot consider many of the platforms, regardless of whether its for work or personal social purposes, as reliable. If a platform is going to present itself as a backbone of modern internet/computing, it's really trying to claim it's a utility, but it doesn't want to behave like a utility, it wants to get more spending from the users; as long as this is the case, where the user capture efforts take higher priority than maintaining the services and using plausibly deniable tactics to eschew that responsibility, I cannot get excited or interested in platforms; I will use them as the projects I work on require the platforms, but if it were up to me, I'd not put everything on platforms and diversify as much as possible.
† You can [0] submit a request for credit, but I'm not sure how much credit is being issued this way; I will give AWS a small nod to the fact that at least for me, their SLA Guarantee page is "fairly" easy to read, but my issue is that it looks like they only will offer credit for a fairly small amount of specific situations, and it's unclear how many of these requests are honored. A very brief search for a few terms on how long/often AWS refunds occur returns mostly the official documentation pages without any statistics, and also a few posts from AWS forums with users asking; the first post on the few threads I checked though were mostly "here's what you could have done to avoid this" scenarios; maybe the users indeed were doing something quite wrong, but at the same time it's unnerving to not quickly find stories about the process working well and efficiently.
Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off
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Seems like an extreme counter example. In the spirit of the parent post I guess you could argue theft, murder etc. was already illegal? Also, it is morally different when you want to punish lawmakers.
> Seems like an extreme counter example. It is voluntarily ridiculously extreme, because the parent comment was itself ridiculously categorical. The thing is: most of the time, retro-active laws are dangerous tools that should be used rarely and with caution, but sometimes and when some people have been doing something that they knew was evil even though not technically illegal, it can make sense to punish them with…
Especially evident in programming. E.g. "premature optimization is the root of all evil".