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> a non-profit media organization that engages in undercover investigative journalism investigative journalism doesn't involve falsely editing video to ruin people's lives
No they'll instead ruin your life for posting a Trump wrestling GIF on Reddit
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Re: Ban on recording without consent is unconstitutional, US court rules
#102In Canada you can record someone (phone call, in person, etc) if just one party consents to the recording. In other words, if I'm a phone call with someone, even if there are several people on the call, it's NOT illegal for me to record them, as long as I'm a participant in the call. It's called the "one party consent" exception. I have no obligation to ask, or tell the others on the call that I'm recording.
There are legitimate reasons for having one party consent legal. My experience with employer harassment has been that it’s extremely hard to prove discriminatory behavior without being able to record without consent.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Strongly disagree. There are so many situations in which abusive people (employers, romantic partners, politicians) need to be caught unaware or they won't be caught at all. Obviously there are lines to be drawn when we are talking about the government recording citizens. Warrants are an important check on power for this. But any individual should be able to record (mostly) anything. At the very least, it can save yo…
But I worry about everyone's ring doorbells spying on all the neighbors.
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It was interesting to see this fact crop up with the reddit vs. Appolo debacle.
How did this apply? I admit I haven't been following the drama closely.
Every time I try to describe the event, it ends up sounding like low quality flamebait. Yet it’s a complete description of what happened.
He never acknowledged it, either. It was just evil. Usually there are confounding factors or reasons to be on the founder’s side, or to at least see the situation from their point of view. But in this case, it was a blatant lie.
The most charitable explanation I’ve ever been able to think of is “maybe Huffman literally forgot that he misunderstood the Apollo dev because he was so stressed.” But eventually I concluded that requires so much mental gymnastics that I may as well compete at the Olympics. And even in that situation, he should’ve said something.
Huffman was a part of the original YC batch. There were no YC alums before him. This was the era when pg wrote “Don’t be evil”, which was at least a good idea, if not an implicit guideline to all founders. And then this happens a decade and some change later.
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No they'll instead ruin your life for posting a Trump wrestling GIF on Reddit
I don't know what that means.
I think the lesson is something about picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel.
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Why would a Canadian talking on his Canadian phone service expect to be bound by the laws of a foreign country because a call terminated there.
Why would an American talking on an American phone service lack protection provided by American laws?
What protection.
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I don't know what that means.
A redditor made a gif Trump hitting CNN with a chair in a wrestling ring, or something to that effect. It was subsequently tweeted by Trump. CNN tracked the gif back to the redditor that made the gif and threatened to go public with his identity and reddit comment history if he didn't issue an apology (which he did). I think the lesson is something about picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
How did this apply? I admit I haven't been following the drama closely.
It’s such a depressing situation. Steve Huffman got caught red handed making up lies about Apollo’s dev for no reason whatsoever. I wish I was exaggerating. Every time I try to describe the event, it ends up sounding like low quality flamebait. Yet it’s a complete description of what happened. He never acknowledged it, either. It was just evil. Usually there are confounding factors or reasons to be on the founder’s s…
All this is to say that Steve Huffman might not be deliberately lying in this instance. Maybe. It's hard to give him too much credit since he's already shown himself to be a snake who edits other people's comments and that's certainly not something that could be done by accident. Nonetheless, memory is a funny thing.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
A redditor made a gif Trump hitting CNN with a chair in a wrestling ring, or something to that effect. It was subsequently tweeted by Trump. CNN tracked the gif back to the redditor that made the gif and threatened to go public with his identity and reddit comment history if he didn't issue an apology (which he did). I think the lesson is something about picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel.
That is quite the non sequitur. No one's life was ruined and investigative journalism wasn't involved.
Anyway, here's the article in question: https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-tr...
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has a lawyer weighed in on if this was actually legal? It’s concerning wiretap laws with participants in two different countries, so the legality might not be just “is it legal under Canada law”
Why would a Canadian talking on his Canadian phone service expect to be bound by the laws of a foreign country because a call terminated there.
The law exists to protect the person being recorded, so if the person being recorded is somewhere where the law is in effect, then it can be applied.
There is case-law supporting something similar within the US at least: if a person in e.g. California (where all parties' consent is needed) is recorded by a person in e.g. Virginia (where only one party's consent is needed) then they have violated the California law.