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Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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I moved to Standard Notes a while ago. I like free things for basic things like notes, but was happy to pay for E2E Encryption to support what they were up to. I think I got a 5 year licence for $150 which was not outrageous. I just looked up their current prices - $80 a year which means I'll migrate back to Joplin soon.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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What happens if you try to sign up for a new account? Similar level of malfunction, I assume. I am so sick of this reality. Endless dark patterns to get your money. Nearly impossible to get out. Why ever make a good product when you can just seek rent and fall into that perfect optimum of cheap-enough that cancelling is not worth the pain.

This is what virtual Credit Cards are for... Each site gets a separate number and I can expire them as needed. Unfortunately, if they get popular vendors will figure out a way to detect and refuse.

BofA had a online tool (Flash based I think) to generate and manage virtual CC numbers linked to your real card.

When Flash was sunset -- they gave a BS reasoning and shutdown this tool as well whithout making an effort to rebuild / replace.

I am surprised there was no big backlash from customers given the increasing online fraud and privacy/security consciousness of banking users.

Which (US) banks currently offer this virtual CC feature? I am a customer of three big banks/CC and none of them have this.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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I like to bring up my personal opinion and realization of owning an open format -- plain-text - content for your life-long textual contents. I was once an Evernote user since its early days and a premium subscriber for many years. I have used many notetaking apps and bought enough of them – iA Writer, ByWord, Bear, SimpleNote, nvAlt fork of Notational Velocity, etc. I have moved to a simpler notetaking and writing ha…

Have you tried Obsidian?

3 days ago one of the obsidian makers posted this: https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1675626836821409792

Key quote:

"These days I write using an app I help make called Obsidian, but it’s a delusion to think it will last forever. The app will eventually become obsolete. It’s the plain text files I create that are designed to last."

Seems to align with your philosophy

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Exactly. Retrospective laws like that would face stiff opposition.

Ex post facto laws should be prohibited in any civilized country.

Or with enough laws, every law can be applied selectively

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Obsidian.md for the win. I used to use evernote way back when they started, was cool software, then they started scaling and added worst search UI I have ever come across. That day, I deleted my account and went markdown with my own storage. Don't see the benefit of why your notes should be controlled by others.

It's not open source. If migrate from Evernote, at least it's better to migrate to FOSS. Sadly, most FOSS solutions lack mobile app support.

The notes are all in markdown stored on your disk. IMO that is more important than the app source code being open. I can easily take my data and write another app.

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I wonder how that 100 year guarantee is holding up? https://longnow.org/ideas/evernote-and-the-100-year-data-gua...

>Evernote CEO Phil Libin announced at the recent Le Web London conference that the company will soon set up a protected fund and include a legally binding guaratee that users’ data will be maintained for 100 years That almost sounds like a threat to commit a crime in certain jurisdictions. A lot has changed regarding how we talk about data in the last decade.

GDPR was not designed to target service providers providing a data service storing and processing data that the customer explicitly contracted for. That would be under data processing which has different rules.

Unless the guarantee was for Evernote to hold this data for 100 years irrespective of what the customer wishes and for example after the customer has ended their contract for the service, this angle doesn't apply.

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I'll look into it, thanks for the suggestion! The risk de-synchronization poses can probably be mitigated with automated local backups.

BTW, just a second vote for Syncthing, here. It's basically my "move data around" Swiss Army knife. Need to get my Keepass database on my phone? Syncthing. Need to back up my reMarkable to my NAS? Syncthing. Need to replicate game saves between my PC and my Steamdeck because the game doesn't support Steam Cloud Sync (I'm looking at you, Subnautica)? Syncthing. I run Paperless as a document management system and use G…

If I can ask, what is Paperless? Google is strangely unhelpful.

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I use dropbox to sync.

I've contemplated this, but in general I'm not a big fan of hosting personal files on the cloud if it can be avoided. Maybe if I use rclone and encrypt it...?

I use cryptomator and store my notes on Github (encrypted)

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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I use dropbox to sync.

I've contemplated this, but in general I'm not a big fan of hosting personal files on the cloud if it can be avoided. Maybe if I use rclone and encrypt it...?

If you are okay with rclone (and do have vps/server/whatever somewhere) then Syncthing is the thing to do that.

https://docs.syncthing.net/

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For the last 5 days I have been actively trying to cancel my Evernote personal plan. The site would break every time I navigated to manage my subscription or try and reach support. I guess that's one way to reduce customer churn.

Can’t you just do a chargeback on the next subscription charge? If enough people do that, the card issuer will probably hit them with fines of some sort.

I think, in general, you can always file a chargeback if you're prepared for the possibility of losing access to your account and data.
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