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Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by pcthrowaway »

jfim wrote: post #16
echelon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really love Obsidian, I still have some major blockers. The git plugin is dangerously broken. I've had pushes from different computers overwrite one another. It doesn't show merge conflicts - it's happy to plow forward. I've reduced my usage since that happened. This is a huge problem. I need to have confidence the backups and merges aren't destroying notes. There's no easy way to open multiple workspaces simultane…

Out of curiosity, what's the rationale for using git? Is it to get a history of notes or just for sync? If it's the latter, I believe obsidian has a paid offering for that, or one can MacGyver it with syncthing.

You don't even need to macguyver really. There may be some potential conflict issues, but you could probably put the obsidian vault directory inside of dropbox, apple cloud, etc (I'm doing this with apple cloud, but I really only use one device)

Maybe a little bit of Macguyvering to add backups is a good idea

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by QuarterReptile »

Douger wrote: post #11

For the last 5 days I have been actively trying to cancel my Evernote personal plan. The site would break every time I navigated to manage my subscription or try and reach support. I guess that's one way to reduce customer churn.

I canceled mine maybe a week ago. So hopefully it can be done for you, too!

For anyone not jumping ship, you can reduce your price hike to only 78-ish total per year by clicking through the cancelation menus.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

Douger wrote: post #11

For the last 5 days I have been actively trying to cancel my Evernote personal plan. The site would break every time I navigated to manage my subscription or try and reach support. I guess that's one way to reduce customer churn.

What happens if you try to sign up for a new account? Similar level of malfunction, I assume.

I am so sick of this reality. Endless dark patterns to get your money. Nearly impossible to get out. Why ever make a good product when you can just seek rent and fall into that perfect optimum of cheap-enough that cancelling is not worth the pain.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

timetraveller26 wrote: post #4

And to think that at one point Evernote was THE note taking app. So much wasted potential.

On the other hand, it should be possible for software to be done. I have never used Evernote, but I am not sure how much innovation is required in the note-taking space.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by dylan604 »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #24
Douger wrote: post #11

For the last 5 days I have been actively trying to cancel my Evernote personal plan. The site would break every time I navigated to manage my subscription or try and reach support. I guess that's one way to reduce customer churn.

What happens if you try to sign up for a new account? Similar level of malfunction, I assume. I am so sick of this reality. Endless dark patterns to get your money. Nearly impossible to get out. Why ever make a good product when you can just seek rent and fall into that perfect optimum of cheap-enough that cancelling is not worth the pain.

Assume away, but to play devil's advocate, how much testing do you think is done on the close account procedures vs add new account and accept money from that account? i'll bet it's not even close to being even

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by pyeri »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #24
Douger wrote: post #11

For the last 5 days I have been actively trying to cancel my Evernote personal plan. The site would break every time I navigated to manage my subscription or try and reach support. I guess that's one way to reduce customer churn.

What happens if you try to sign up for a new account? Similar level of malfunction, I assume. I am so sick of this reality. Endless dark patterns to get your money. Nearly impossible to get out. Why ever make a good product when you can just seek rent and fall into that perfect optimum of cheap-enough that cancelling is not worth the pain.

There have been stories of how convoluted and practically impossible the unsubscribe process from Amazon Prime is.

At almost every step, the system sort of nags you with "Do you REALLY want to do this?" almost with a trolling attitude!

If this is the case with proper big tech capitalist, think what will the scenario be with smaller pleb capitalists like Evernote in this grave recession.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by ktta »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #25
timetraveller26 wrote: post #4

And to think that at one point Evernote was THE note taking app. So much wasted potential.

On the other hand, it should be possible for software to be done. I have never used Evernote, but I am not sure how much innovation is required in the note-taking space.

Software is never done if the software it runs on is never done. Making that transition is not easy, and tech debt can accumulate to the point where you have to make substantial changes. In the meantime, UI standards/tastes change. Now you're at the right spot for a re-write
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