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Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by neoromantique »

pandaman wrote: post #460
neoromantique wrote: post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wagner and its sub Rusich? Both are directly funded by Russia (as recently admitted by Putin himself). You can possibly claim that it is PMC rather than direct Russian military, but then there is the recent ultimatum given to Wagner troops -- Join Russian military ranks or leave.

Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever, as you noticed yourself, it's a PMC, so it's not a part of the military. And the ultimatum confirms that (you cannot demand people who are part of the military to join the military). As for "Rusich" relation to "Wagner" there are just Western journalists claiming that. "Wagner" is not very secretive and Prigozhin is making more videos than s…

>Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever.

lol, I'm done.

Edit: Looked through comment history and it makes sense now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30731180

You're a joke, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by erik_seaberg »

newaccount74 wrote: post #267
matheusmoreira wrote: post #237

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They absolutely do have that right. They even exercised that right. The government did not send police to their house to arrest them. There are many governments that would. What they don't have is freedom from consequences. They don't have imnunity from being fired.

> The government did not send police to their house to arrest them A government official used his position of power to get a critic fired over a personal insult. I'm not sure what "free speech" is good for if government officials can just get you kicked from your job for exercising it.

DoD assets weren’t needed. Any customer would have the same power to object to this.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by pandaman »

neoromantique wrote: post #461
pandaman wrote: post #460

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever, as you noticed yourself, it's a PMC, so it's not a part of the military. And the ultimatum confirms that (you cannot demand people who are part of the military to join the military). As for "Rusich" relation to "Wagner" there are just Western journalists claiming that. "Wagner" is not very secretive and Prigozhin is making more videos than s…

>Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever. lol, I'm done. Edit: Looked through comment history and it makes sense now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30731180 You're a joke, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Sure, and you should not be lying though.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by throwoutway »

Osmose wrote: post #285
revelio wrote: post #243

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Even worse than that. She took the $40k in return for agreeing to not disparage VMware. She then immediately started disparaging them, but it was "in private" whatever that means, so she presumed she wouldn't get caught. And then once her preferred candidate is in the White House she figures it's now safe to violate her agreement in public too, thus keeping the $40k AND going back on her word. She stiffed VMware once…

"Stabbing you in the back" is pretty strong language for posting social media about a personal experienced at a job she no longer has at a company that will barely see any consequences from this post using a right that literally the government has granted all workers now. Like what world do you live in that people don't complain about their old jobs such that you think it's that unacceptable?

This individual has shown they lack a moral compass and will happily lie and disparage anyone they want in both public and private life. Their community of friends are enablers of this negative behavior. I would not hire them.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by throwoutway »

Pannoniae wrote: post #157

For me, as someone not an American, this level of polarisation and abrasivity is almost unimaginable for me. Like, intentionally provoking people then painting them as dicks when they get enough of it. Like, this wasn't even about tweeting political opinions and then being fired for it (which is way less black-and-white than this and I could absolutely have sympathy if that happened), this was straight-up telling "fu…

Most Americans would see this person's behavior as polarizing and abrasive, and most employers would seek to fire anyone exhibiting this behavior, and especially with the subsequent actions. This post is just doubling down and shows they have not learned anything. The community of commenters/friends are reinforcing the negative behavior

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by lisasays »

gdy wrote: post #387
SergeAx wrote: post #386

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Every country in the world has their share of far right bozos. Those of Azov are quite mild, by the way. And they are putting their lives where their mouths are, suprisingly, going out and fight Russians. Unlikely their European or US ideology brothers, who mostly fight the police during and after football games. Or, even worse, harmless LGBT folks on pride parades.

"Every country in the world has their share of far right bozos" I'd suggest you follow the links I gave you. "In this first English-language book on the Azov movement, Michael Colborne explains how Azov came to be and continues to exploit Ukraine’s fractured social and political situation—including the only ongoing war on European soil – to build one of the most ambitious and dangerous far-right movements in the worl…

The same Michael Colborne this commenter is citing has also written that he "wouldn't call [the Azov Movement] explicitly a neo-Nazi movement", and told Haaretz in 2022:

"After the first few years of its formation, only a small minority of members had far right connections. ... The Azov Battalion and the entire Azov movement are almost completely untainted by antisemitism."

Not that I'm defending Azov. Just that I don't think that this commenter's apparent concerns about Azov's political beliefs are what they seem. I don't think they really care as to whether Azov is now, or ever was neo-Nazi in any substantive sense. It's just a topic they like to through around to push people's emotional buttons, and distract from far more obvious and important issues.

Pretty much exactly like Putin is doing whenever he plays the Nazi card.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by smsm42 »

revelio wrote: post #261
js98 wrote: post #12

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Agreed. Being technically right isnt the only thing which matters in an employer/employee context. They (the employee) represent the company

She's not technically right. Her article is filled with "all my bosses cheerfully agreed that the social media policy was impossible to comply with", which is nonsense. She could have just stopped using Twitter. She's not a shark who will die if she doesn't tweet every few minutes, it's just social media. Yet she seems to be convinced that she found some clever gotcha here and everyone in every meeting bowed to her s…

Looks like she treats people giving up on arguing with her as people agreeing with her. No wonder she's so smug and self-righteous - her experience shows her if she argues long enough, everybody is ending up agreeing with her!

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by sizzle »

Why do people gloss over the fact that they signed a contract stating their employment is “at will” meaning they can be let go for a multitude of reasons outside of being in a protected class.

This person’s entitlement is on another level. They aren’t guaranteed a job and insulting high ranking officials will get you sacked 99% of the time, on top of the thousands of other reasons your employer can let you go.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by gdy »

lisasays wrote: post #466
gdy wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Every country in the world has their share of far right bozos" I'd suggest you follow the links I gave you. "In this first English-language book on the Azov movement, Michael Colborne explains how Azov came to be and continues to exploit Ukraine’s fractured social and political situation—including the only ongoing war on European soil – to build one of the most ambitious and dangerous far-right movements in the worl…

The same Michael Colborne this commenter is citing has also written that he "wouldn't call [the Azov Movement] explicitly a neo-Nazi movement", and told Haaretz in 2022: "After the first few years of its formation, only a small minority of members had far right connections. ... The Azov Battalion and the entire Azov movement are almost completely untainted by antisemitism." Not that I'm defending Azov. Just that I do…

"only a small minority of members had far right connections"

Of course its commanders are a minority.

"untainted by antisemitism"

So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews?

No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism.

"I don't think they really"

Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument.

"to push people's emotional buttons, and distract "

You mean people in Western countries might learn whom they are helping and ask questions like "why exactly have we been doing this"?

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by gdy »

pandaman wrote: post #460
neoromantique wrote: post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wagner and its sub Rusich? Both are directly funded by Russia (as recently admitted by Putin himself). You can possibly claim that it is PMC rather than direct Russian military, but then there is the recent ultimatum given to Wagner troops -- Join Russian military ranks or leave.

Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever, as you noticed yourself, it's a PMC, so it's not a part of the military. And the ultimatum confirms that (you cannot demand people who are part of the military to join the military). As for "Rusich" relation to "Wagner" there are just Western journalists claiming that. "Wagner" is not very secretive and Prigozhin is making more videos than s…

"Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever"

Well, this sure looks like an evidence of Wagner's commander having a neo-Nazi tattoo [0][1]. Besides Utkin's personality there doesn't seem to be anything else.

[0] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/729

[1] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/736

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