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PhD Simulator

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Re: PhD Simulator

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Generally, the focus here should be on: 1) Not bombing any classes (i.e. A/A- in all, maybe a B+ in one; a B or below is failing) 2) Doing very good work and trying to write an original paper for professors that you want to work with while doing just enough to get by in other classes [this is in part how you figure out who you want to work with] 3) Being good enough with the literature to pass the comprehensive exams…

It really makes you wonder if the university should just have a mechanism to "fire" a grad student rather than pretending that these events aren't simply a mechanism to "fire" someone because they didn't pass X hurdle. If the advisors can vouch for, or strike a student regardless of their qual performance - then why not simply have an end of year performance review?

Most depts do have some kind of official review, but it's more of a formality. I think they're also concerned about how students would react if they suggest that academia isn't for them directly. So instead they resort to more passive-aggressive or arbitrary measures.

On the other hand, not all departments are good fits with students and there's a very wide asymmetry in information between many new students and programs, even if you "do your research" beforehand, given just how specialized these disciplines are at a high level. It would be nice if transferring programs was made easier and if more departments would just agree to help students "master out" and look for jobs rather than discard them like roadkill.

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This is great and exactly captures the PhD experience. Both in the simulator and in real life, I mostly survived until the end by slacking off frequently, and needed around 5 years. Some highlights: > INBOX: Based on the reviewers' comments, we regret to inform you that your manuscript has been REJECTED for publication. One of the reviewers pointed out that there is no comparison with a state-of-art method. > You cam…

> You found one of your ideas appears in a recently published paper. You can no longer work on it. This is one of the things I thought of right away when ChatGPT got released last year. "God, there's probably so many PhD candidates right now in NLP feeling despair like all their work was pointless ...as if million of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced." It's hard in the moment to know whether what…

I met someone recently who finished their PhD in computer vision related work a couple years ago and she said all of her specialization now felt useless, but that her PhD was still useful for understanding the fundamentals for a job she now has but does absolutely nothing with her research experience.

Re: PhD Simulator

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I lost all hope and quit. Something that happened to me in real life as well.

Every time I tried the game (using OP's described steps) I "lost all hope and quit". I thought that was the joke / funny commentary: that all paths through the game involve you ending up losing. Didn't know there was a path to actually win the game until reading the HN comments. So I kept trying it over and over doing the same steps and finally won once. I guess that's an even funnier commentary on how it's pretty mu…

i won on my first try at just under 6 years and my hope never got below 65 i think, maybe i got lucky

Re: PhD Simulator

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I notice a lot of negativity and "do not recommend" regarding pursuing a PhD on HN recently. That raises the question: Why would you go for it?

A PhD is one of the hardest, yet most rewarding time of my life. Its perhaps the only period where I have the opportunity to do nothing else, but "think"; where I can spend many months just reading papers, learning and attacking what seems like one little problem. It is very hard work, no doubt. Going back in time, I would still do it again. And in fact, I have seriously considered doing another PhD in an entirely different field.

But still I generally do not recommend people do it. You have to be in it, because you are very interested in the field. You have to feel rewarded by learning, and by solving problems. And also there is a lot a lot of luck involved: advisor, topic, ideas etc.

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One dynamic I experienced that also isn't in the simulation: if you focus too much on classwork early on in order to pass your RPE, it can actually be hard to find an advisor. Classwork is basically dead-end work and the more you focus on it the less you have to show for yourself when trying to convince an advisor to work with you. Your goal should be to optimize for doing just well enough to pass your classwork. Als…

This would be incredibly bad advice in half of Physics and most of Math. An adviser would simply not trust a graduate student with middling grades to be competent enough to work with.

As a counterpoint, I knew a physics prof that would drop any grad students who got above a B average, since it meant the student had bad time management. Bad time management being defined by spending more tine outside the lab than strictly necessary.

Then again, knowing that that @£&$€¥ would drop you might make it a good plan.

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A PhD is one of those rare periods of life where you are completely on your own, navigating unknown territories without anybody telling you what you should or should not do, where your professional success depends entirely on your own ideas and decisions. The reason to try a PhD is that you are truly free to test your limits. It can be liberating, but also daunting. And definitely humbling. In some ways, it is not so…

Interesting that you point out the symmetry between pursuing education and entrepreneurship. One of the tough things about the education route is that winning at entrepreneurship can result in huge tangible life changes, but it seems like the effects of winning at education is harder to visualize. I get to put PhD after my name, but what else?

Dr at the front?

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> UNIVERSITY NEWS: free cloud storage now available to all students and faculties. Your data are now safe on the cloud.

This is a trap!

Re: PhD Simulator

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I notice a lot of negativity and "do not recommend" regarding pursuing a PhD on HN recently. That raises the question: Why would you go for it?

1. If you manage to get through it, you will be a world expert in a niche that can be valuable. $$$$$$$$ 2. You will develop the invaluable skill of not giving up even when all the odds are against you 3. You will be able to swim by yourself, parsing enormous amount of literature, identifying what is useful and useless and solve problems that no one else before you has solved. 4. Access to academic positions that off…

> 4. Access to academic positions that offer stability

This one reads like a bitter joke :/ not sure where you live for this to sound true to you! But the rest are good takes.

Re: PhD Simulator

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One dynamic I experienced that also isn't in the simulation: if you focus too much on classwork early on in order to pass your RPE, it can actually be hard to find an advisor. Classwork is basically dead-end work and the more you focus on it the less you have to show for yourself when trying to convince an advisor to work with you. Your goal should be to optimize for doing just well enough to pass your classwork. Als…

I had picked my advisor at the start of my PhD. I also had 2 backups. My pick was on sabbatical my first year. He and I agreed I'd load up on the required classes that year. He e-mailed me right before the year ended saying he had changed his mind and didn't want any more grad students, basically dumping me. Right around the same time, my first backup decided to retire. My second backup passed away. I was left no lon…

sorry this happened to you, wishing you success in spite of the setbacks
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