FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
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Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#62Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#63Has it been successful? NetBSD seems to be more popular. Last time I used freeBSD was as a child circa 18 years ago.
FreeBSD is far more of a general OS, NetBSD is more known for its minimalism and extreme breadth of hardware support. It can run on almost anything.
But in terms of usage numbers I'm pretty sure FreeBSD trumps it.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#64Love FreeBSD but ... Really wish there wasn't a split between FreeBSD & Matt Dillon 20-years ago, since DragonflyBSD is so strong and yet FreeBSD hasn't benefited from it's innovations. They'd truly would be better together than apart. Can only imagine how much stronger the BSD ecosystem would be overall today, if the past 20-years these teams had been together. https://www.dragonflybsd.org Announcement: https://list…
It's been a long time, but IIRC the split was due to direction on SMP. From what I recall, the FreeBSD team made the right call at the time. https://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#65I love FreeBSD and have been running it as a primary OS in my home and in my work since the late 90s. Unfortunately, there's some long-standing bugs that seem to have no traction to be resolved around booting from USB storage that impacted me in my home and some systems had to be rebuilt on Linux, making me not Linux-free at home for the first time in over a decade. I love FreeBSD and I hope it has another 30 years o…
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#66was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
I mean beastie is super cute and wears green sneakers. You'd have to be really hardcore religious like Amish to take that seriously and they abhor computers anyway :)
I like the new logo too. It's just a ball with two cones really.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
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#69I'm using FreeBSD on my servers non stop for 20 years. It has some quirks, but it's rock solid.
> "but [FreeBSD's] rock solid" Curious to hear your feedback of FreeBSD v5-8. Since many consider those releases (years) very bumpy.
In the past, I would update the OS and ports religiously, sometimes rebuilding world and packages on a weekly basis. I've never once experienced any bumpiness between v5.x and v8.x (or any other version, but see my comments on v13 below). The OS has always been rock solid.
I have occasionally experienced some package issues, usually when upgrading a port that had lagging dependencies -- some packages written in PHP come readily to mind. The number of times this has happened is more than 2 and less than 6, and in each of those cases, using portdowngrade and waiting it out a few weeks did the trick.
Apart from OS-independent hardware issues, the only real FreeBSD issue that I've ever encountered was in the v12->v13 upgrade. If you were running ZFS, there was a gpart bootcode command you needed to run as part of the upgrade process, which I sometimes forgot to do, which caused the post-upgrade reboot to hang. Normally this wouldn't be a big deal, you just insert the rescue CD and run the command and be on your way 2 minutes later; but at that time I had a number of my servers running on a VPS provider that didn't allow you to mount your own ISO, so I had to wipe the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch and restore stuff from backups. I don't really count this as a FreeBSD issue per se, just an obtuse service provider. (I've since moved most of my digital properties oceans away from that company.)
Nowadays I upgrade the OS and packages far less frequently. I upgrade the OS with every minor release and also if there are any security issues that affect me. I upgrade the packages every couple of months, or if there is a bugfix that affects me, or if I need a new feature only available in a newer release.
Since I started using it, there have been a number of developments that have made my FreeBSD life so much better: cperciva's portsnap and freebsd-update, pkg-ng, and of course the biggest one: ZFS. All of these allow me to maintain and upgrade the systems very easily.
I stick with FreeBSD because of its consistency and ease of use, so I'd be curious to know what you mean by "bumpy"?
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#70Love FreeBSD but ... Really wish there wasn't a split between FreeBSD & Matt Dillon 20-years ago, since DragonflyBSD is so strong and yet FreeBSD hasn't benefited from it's innovations. They'd truly would be better together than apart. Can only imagine how much stronger the BSD ecosystem would be overall today, if the past 20-years these teams had been together. https://www.dragonflybsd.org Announcement: https://list…
Recently (as a seasoned FreeBSD user/sysadmin) I tried DragonflyBSD to check how it went ... and it lacks a LOT of things that FreeBSD has - like for example the GEOM framework.
On FreeBSD its quite easy to list block devices like:
FreeBSD # geom disk list
... but on DragonflyBSD its not possible as there is no GEOM ... so the only thing you can do is to: DFBSD # camcontrol devlist
... but its far from usable and its very limited.On FreeBSD I was able to write lsblk(8) Linux replacement ... I would not be able to do that on DragonflyBSD.
Yes - its a pity that such a talented person such as Matt Dillon left FreeBSD project - but DragonflyBSD is not a better replacement also ...
Regards, vermaden