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Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by wizofaus »

scbrg wrote: post #232
ceving wrote: post #217

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I would like to see you cycling 5 km in the Alps against the wind in the rain. Cycling is fine. I do it 7 km to the work. But only because it is flat. And only when the weather is fine.

I've never really understood the point of comments like this. So, there are conditions where cycling isn't feasible. Sure. Does that mean people in general couldn't use bicycles more? No, of course not. Did GP suggest that everyone that lives within 5km of work must bike every day . No, not that either. For every solution it's easy to find a situation where that solution doesn't apply. So what? That doesn't mean the…

I use a bike to get around pretty much whenever I can but I'd be the first to admit cars are suitable for a far wider range of journey types, and it's not exactly surprising that in most countries in the world people prefer to drive cars over riding bikes. The best we can realistically hope for is ensuring that whatever barriers exist now that discourage people from cycling (safety concerns typically being #1) are addressed and minimised. Though certainly in the case of Germany you can compare it to two of its neighbours (to the west and north) and reasonably conclude more can be done to promote cycling as a way to get around in towns and cities.

Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by JanSt »

_ph_ wrote: post #363
JanSt wrote: post #343

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This is simple not true. https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/politik... You still pay teice the price for gas as before because we had 30yr low costs (below spot) contracts with Gazprom.

The article is about shutting down the reactors at the 31.12.22. As you know, they were not shut down at that date but ran some months more. That doesn't say anything about the long term maintenance requirements. And in any case they would have to be inspected before any further decisions to be taken as the article only states "they might be able to run further". But that was only an opinion, not a result of a inspec…

You have either not read the article or didn’t understand it. The PSÜ has little to do with the actual condition of the reactors.

Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by wizofaus »

scbrg wrote: post #253
ceving wrote: post #244

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"Alps" was a pars pro toto. See here for a complete list of mountains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountain_and_hill_rang... And this are the raining days: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1892/umfrage/... It is raining more than half of a year in many cities.

Fair enough, and thanks for teaching me the term "pars pro toto". Today I was one of the lucky 10k :)

"Synecdoche" is probably the more common term.

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Post by _ph_ »

cubefox wrote: post #368
_ph_ wrote: post #297

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That doesn't contradict what I wrote.

But then you would have to claim that the mainstream parties of many, if not most, countries are "right extremist". Japan would probably count as significantly more "extremist" than the AfD.

I would call all parties right extremists who deny or relativate the Holocaust, consider shooting people at the borders and so on.

Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by _ph_ »

JanSt wrote: post #372
_ph_ wrote: post #363

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The article is about shutting down the reactors at the 31.12.22. As you know, they were not shut down at that date but ran some months more. That doesn't say anything about the long term maintenance requirements. And in any case they would have to be inspected before any further decisions to be taken as the article only states "they might be able to run further". But that was only an opinion, not a result of a inspec…

You have either not read the article or didn’t understand it. The PSÜ has little to do with the actual condition of the reactors.

I have read and understood the article. It is all speculation about what might or might not be necessary.

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Post by locallost »

llampx wrote: post #365
locallost wrote: post #335

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That's a favorite of mine because at the same time those same regulations are cited as the reason why the plants are incredibly safe.

The changing regulations over time add to the complexity.

Here is an article [1] by the American Nuclear Society detailing all the improvements that happened since the incident at Three Mile Island happened. It does not list these as negative, but positive, since they improve safety. So the industry thinks safe is correct, but then some like to pretend that removing these would make things only cheaper, never less safe. It cannot be true.

[1] https://www.ans.org/news/article-3903/insights-from-the-thre...

Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by locallost »

mahkeiro wrote: post #356
locallost wrote: post #333

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BASF is a drop in the bucket and it left not because of high electricity prices like you claimed, but high natural gas prices which they directly use for production. e.g. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/basf-could-cut-outpu... > BASF is already reducing production of ammonia, which relies heavily on natural gas, and sourcing some it its ammonia needs from outside Europe, where gas prices are lower. Heavy indu…

Basic fact you don’t seem to grasp is that electricity price in Europe are directly dependent on gas price as the price is governed by the price of the last capacity called which in Europe are gas driven… Chemical plants but not only as the articles mentioned but glass ceramic etc are using large amount of electricity. The current decrease in electricity usage(that’s not only happening in Germany but throughout all W…

You seem to be hopping from one vaguely connected argument to another. I am aware that gas price sets the electricity price when deployed, but it has nothing to do with BASF, they were hit hard by specifically gas prices because they use gas. I already posted the link(s). And furthermore, that BASF went to China in 2023 did not affect electricity use in 2020, nor is BASF responsible for 50TWh of electricity per year. There is no grand scale industry movement out of Germany.

Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by nojvek »

Porche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Volkswagen. They are the German darlings. Hard to shake them to move to full electric since they are knee deep invested in ICE engines.

Germany also shot themselves in foot by shutting down all nuclear plants and started burning coal.

Re: Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

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Post by locallost »

locallost wrote: post #229
ffgjgf1 wrote: post #206

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Solar and wind alone can’t provide 100%. Not yet anyway.. > Successfully Yet the amount of energy generated by burning coal has only increased. * https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Economic-Sectors-Enterpris...

The data on that link says: 2019: 114.0 + 57.4 2020: 91.7 + 42.8 2021: 110.1 + 54.6 2022: 116.2 + 64.4 When the first wave of decomissions came in 2011, the number was 2011: 150 + 112 [1] Straight question, to see if you can answer it: is it going up or down? Furthermore, even in the data you are posting, it's going down every year except last. And it went up last year because France's nuclear energy failed and neede…

Cannot answer the question.

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Post by ulfw »

fxtentacle wrote: post #341
ulfw wrote: post #312

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Not one single kind of rolling stock in Singapore's MRT is made in Germany. Why do you just claim random things like that as if it were true? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Singapore_MRT_and_LRT_...

Literally the 2nd item on your list is C651 made by Siemens which has design and headquarters in Munich, Germany. Also a quick Kagi search could have pointed you at "Siemens Mobility awarded contract to deliver CBTC on Singapore’s 8th & longest fully-underground MRT Cross Island Line" ;)

Okay I give you that. I was wrong about zero. 19 trainsets out of a total of 594. 3%. And those were manufactured in Austria (like I said), not Germany. But yes Siemens is HQed in Munich. So I guess they bought them from there. True.

Not sure how one can interpret "Singapore because they buy their excellent MRT trains from Germany" and then those excellent trains are a mere 3% of Singapore's trains (with the vast majority being Chinese and Japanese. Even the French trains are more than 3x as many). But hey, whatever.

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