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Mine take maybe 2 minutes to switch from heating to cooling, or cooling to heating.
I’m saying the time it takes to change the temperature in the home, not the time to switch function.
Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
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#93I live in a colder climate where heat pumps are not popular. After talking with a number of HVAC people about this I was surprised to learn that despite being very similar to an AC system in principle, in practice converting an AC system into a heat pump system doesn't make economic sense--you end up just ripping one out and installing the other. I don't fully understand why this is the case, but I hope that there's…
The thing is (especially where I live) I'd still need a gas furnace. We regularly see -20F to -40F in the winter. While the 95% scenario sounds great, in practice still needing gas means we still need all the gas infrastructure. From my understanding natural gas burns pretty clean. The problem is leaks in infrastructure and drilling, which isn't going away because I buy a heat pump.
We cut the amount of gallons we used by over 50% compared to last year. Sure the oil infrastructure is needed to get it delivered (I wish we didn't need it) but I'm very happy that our heating (oil+electricity) bills are so much lower, even with the increased oil prices.
We went with a mid-range system but now I kind of wish we sprung for the "Cadillac" version.
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Do you think people shouldn't be living in Chicago (or most of Canada and the US midwest for that matter) because without heating it's just completely inhospitable to human life during the winter? Or pretty much all Australian cities in summer?
Heating is considerably more energy efficient than having to run ACs all over the place. And if you need to go outside when it's cold you can: you add layers of clothing. In Arizona, in the middle of summer, you could be buck naked and you'd still overheat (and get burnt, to boot).
Re: Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
#95I live in a colder climate where heat pumps are not popular. After talking with a number of HVAC people about this I was surprised to learn that despite being very similar to an AC system in principle, in practice converting an AC system into a heat pump system doesn't make economic sense--you end up just ripping one out and installing the other. I don't fully understand why this is the case, but I hope that there's…
Nate the House Whisperer is a guy who has been trying to build a new generation of HVAC practice, and though he says he's usually a libertarian, he advocates for adding a tax to AC-only units that would eliminate this price difference (or some similar practice, I forget the exact details...)
Re: Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is (especially where I live) I'd still need a gas furnace. We regularly see -20F to -40F in the winter. While the 95% scenario sounds great, in practice still needing gas means we still need all the gas infrastructure. From my understanding natural gas burns pretty clean. The problem is leaks in infrastructure and drilling, which isn't going away because I buy a heat pump.
You need a backup heat source, but it doesn't necessarily mean you need full infrastructure of gas lines, ducting, and gas furnace. You could have an electric backup connected to ducted heat pump (e.g., non-efficient, pure electric) or could use electric strip heating, electric portable heaters, wood stoves, etc.
Re: Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
#97I live in a colder climate where heat pumps are not popular. After talking with a number of HVAC people about this I was surprised to learn that despite being very similar to an AC system in principle, in practice converting an AC system into a heat pump system doesn't make economic sense--you end up just ripping one out and installing the other. I don't fully understand why this is the case, but I hope that there's…
There are two popular varieties:
- Ground source heat pumps. Those work pretty much anywhere; just dig below the perma frost and you are good to go on the northern tip of Canada, Alaska, Norway, or wherever. Works great, ground temperatures tend to be very stable and it actually goes up the deeper you dig.
- Air source heat pumps. The expensive ones still work okish at extreme temperatures like -25-ish degrees C. Which is a reason these are actually more popular than ground sources even in places (e.g. most of Scandinavia) that reliably get such temperatures each winter.
Re: Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is (especially where I live) I'd still need a gas furnace. We regularly see -20F to -40F in the winter. While the 95% scenario sounds great, in practice still needing gas means we still need all the gas infrastructure. From my understanding natural gas burns pretty clean. The problem is leaks in infrastructure and drilling, which isn't going away because I buy a heat pump.
Replaced our entire system (furnace, a/c) mid last year. Heat pump with backup oil for colder days. We cut the amount of gallons we used by over 50% compared to last year. Sure the oil infrastructure is needed to get it delivered (I wish we didn't need it) but I'm very happy that our heating (oil+electricity) bills are so much lower, even with the increased oil prices. We went with a mid-range system but now I kind o…
Re: Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think people shouldn't be living in Chicago (or most of Canada and the US midwest for that matter) because without heating it's just completely inhospitable to human life during the winter? Or pretty much all Australian cities in summer?
I haven't formed an opinion on the matter yet, but I do think there's a large difference between it being too cold and too hot. If I'm too cold and my power goes out I have a lot of options to survive. I can put on more clothes, get under a blanket, light my furniture on fire, etc If I'm too hot and my power goes out, I die. Once the wet bulb temperature gets above a certain level in shade, there's nothing that can b…
Re: Heat Pumps – The Well-Tempered Future of A/Cs
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but typically “heat pump” is used to mean it can provide heating too, whereas standard “A/C” is a “one-way” heat pump that only provides cooling.
I always went with this description too, though oddly a "heat pump water heater" only works one direction, yet "heat pump" is still in its name.