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I wish this article was just 3 paragraphs. The verbose writing style was a little tiring, I found myself scrolling impatiently to find what the actual "Lone Banana Problem" was.
Do you really not know how to skim effectively? Took me just a few seconds.
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Right, so your 90 seconds is actually closer to 10 minutes for most people. That's a lot of time to communicate "AI tends to render one banana as two bananas", which was OP's point. Yes, there were pictures that communicated the same thing, but people naively thought that those 2348 words may actually hold some additional information, as otherwise ca 2300 of them would be completely superfluous. But they were wrong;…
I don't think that the time difference is that big. I'm fast, but I don't think I'm that much faster than an average skim reader. As I said, the title of the article and a couple of image captions are enough to get the gist, and as such, I find it baffling that so many people seem to have totally failed to understand it.
I've been told that in the real world monkeys and chimps don't peel bananas when they eat them, they eat the peel and all, but i don't know if it's true. Whatever happens in the real world, drawings always show monkeys peeling the bananas as they eat them and I would expect a prompt "show a monkey eating a banana" to show it eating a single peeled banana.
> Then think of all the wealth disparity that has been introduced into our world. Think of the social anxiety of always being online. Think of the undermining of our democratic institutions. How is this at all whatsoever needed
Not to mention complaining about wealth disparity from investment as if it is a sin of the technology is asinine. If money can produce better results you will see wealth disparity from the simple feedback loop of "more money -> better results -> more money". Your neighbor taking up jogging while you sit on the couch all day is increasing a health disparity, should your neighbor stop jogging then?
Undermining of democratic institutions is just plain a dumb meme from vested interests who cast what were previously abuses or necessary evils of the system at best as integral to democracy. We would all recognize blaming the media for undermining the Catholic Church by documenting their child sexual abuse as batshit insane. Yet somehow it is different when it comes to newspapers moaning about their loss of monopolies and influence of cliques.
I wish this article was just 3 paragraphs. The verbose writing style was a little tiring, I found myself scrolling impatiently to find what the actual "Lone Banana Problem" was.
> I wish this article was just 3 paragraphs. AI might have problems with single bananas, but it can do that very well: > In an experiment with the AI program Midjourney, the author found a peculiar issue: the program rendered images of monkeys holding bananas, but it consistently depicted two or more bananas even when asked to render a single banana. The author suggests that the AI’s predilection for rendering multip…
The author was trying to produce a single banana on a grey background.
The monkey was a later attempt at prompt engineering.
That AI summary is completely misleading.
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Yeah, I am a speedreader, and I did used to be able to do circa 3000wpm at a push. Good to know that even as a myopic 55YO I can still do half that without trying. Points of comparison: I originally read Hal Clement's classic Mission of Gravity in about 25min, and Joseph Conrad's Victory in about 3 hours.
Did you forget you’re a speed reader when asserting how long it should take to read the whole article?
If the can't skim, for example if they are a foreign language speaker of low-intermediate ability (as I am in 5 or 6 languages, and I am also a professional language teacher among other things), then I expect them to know that they can't skim, and make appropriate allowances.
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> I wish this article was just 3 paragraphs. AI might have problems with single bananas, but it can do that very well: > In an experiment with the AI program Midjourney, the author found a peculiar issue: the program rendered images of monkeys holding bananas, but it consistently depicted two or more bananas even when asked to render a single banana. The author suggests that the AI’s predilection for rendering multip…
That's immediately inaccurate in a way that distorts the whole article. The author was trying to produce a single banana on a grey background. The monkey was a later attempt at prompt engineering. That AI summary is completely misleading.
I wish this article was just 3 paragraphs. The verbose writing style was a little tiring, I found myself scrolling impatiently to find what the actual "Lone Banana Problem" was.
> I wish this article was just 3 paragraphs. AI might have problems with single bananas, but it can do that very well: > In an experiment with the AI program Midjourney, the author found a peculiar issue: the program rendered images of monkeys holding bananas, but it consistently depicted two or more bananas even when asked to render a single banana. The author suggests that the AI’s predilection for rendering multip…
Can't do better then brute force for verification.
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And is RL not? All of these models are constrained by finite weights and then tuned. Are you suggesting we grow a neural network until certain criterion are met with regard to out of distribution test criteria? Hmm
What would that buy you? You train until you push your loss under a certain threshold, then check the external criteria and if they don't hold you train again? Your external criteria would essentially become another part of your loss function, but the whole training would become vastly more inefficient. I'm saying that we shouldn't expect the models to come up with things we didn't train them to come up with.