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Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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GNOME applications look so... mobile. Large controls, large title bars that lack maximize/minimize, simplistic layouts. It might be good for this kind of frontend apps but I can't see software like Krita or KDEnlive being done for GTK4/GNOME as of today (for reference: https://kdenlive.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/271174170_10...)

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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It's not just on Linux though. My wife and I had literally identical setups with the one difference being the video card. I had an AMD card, she a NVidia. And the compatibility issues are real. For a specific example, Nvidia cards and Grim Dawn just don't (or didn't at least) get along, even on Windows - with about a zillion threads of such in the Steam forums for it, indicating it wasn't just e.g. a hardware failure…

Are AMD cards any use for compute tasks such as machine learning though? I would like to build a gaming PC that I can use for stuff like that as well and I feel like there is no real alternative to CUDA at the moment

In theory, sort of, depending on the card and workload. In practice, much more of a headache since (if nothing else) the user base is much smaller.

That's coming from someone who just ordered a 7900xtx anyway.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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I've known about wine for years and literally only learned that CrossOver exists this morning on HN in the steamdeck thread. > and CodeWeavers’ usage of it. To clarify, what do you mean by this? Does CodeWeavers use the term "Wine" somewhere in a product? (I thought that's CrossOver?)

Codeweavers invented the term ‘bottles’ for wine encapsulation

I mean, it's a bit obvious,no? Invent seems like a strong word.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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GNOME applications look so... mobile. Large controls, large title bars that lack maximize/minimize, simplistic layouts. It might be good for this kind of frontend apps but I can't see software like Krita or KDEnlive being done for GTK4/GNOME as of today (for reference: https://kdenlive.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/271174170_10... )

16x16 icons used to be large on 640x480 screens. Microscopic controls is not how GUIs were originally intended to look.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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I have tried to use Bottles on my Steam Deck, because I have old CDs of Windows XP and older games, like Wacky Races, Re-Volt, etc., I can copy the files off the CD, into a folder on my Steam Deck and then run the installer as a non-Steam Game with Proton compatibility, and the installer runs and even manages the video test that's sometimes present in game installers, but after this I need to run the game. I can edit…

> if someone knows how to solve this, I'd be glad to hear about it! With the risk of opening a can of worms, yes, get the pirated cracked versions of the game. You already own the legitimate copy so it's fair. Not your fault the DRM is not letting you play the games you paid for and own legitimetly. At least that's how I see things. Otherwise consider re-purchasing the DRM-free versions of the games on platforms like…

Same prophecy I follow for movies.

I buy movies second hand for dirt cheap, throw it in a cd wallet and toss that behind the shelf.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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plenty of proton games support online multiplayer (natively or otherwise), its just games which use EAC thats the problem. Even then it can be fixed with (what I've heard) minimal work from the developer, but sadly thats still not quite universal. I think there are a few other anti-cheats which can be problematic, but again I think it can be worked around

Yes, the big AC's like EAC, BattleEye and a few others have optional support for proton and is simple to enable. But many other AC's like EA's Ricochet, Vanguard or Faceit AC don't support proton at all.

Yeh see I was thinking of FACEIT because I heard reports that Battlebit (which uses FACEIT) wouldnt work on the steam deck, but checking protondb it seems it runs fine, so I guess there are workarounds.

Wouldn't doubt that Ricochet and Vanguard have no support for it at all though

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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post #151

I have tried to use Bottles on my Steam Deck, because I have old CDs of Windows XP and older games, like Wacky Races, Re-Volt, etc., I can copy the files off the CD, into a folder on my Steam Deck and then run the installer as a non-Steam Game with Proton compatibility, and the installer runs and even manages the video test that's sometimes present in game installers, but after this I need to run the game. I can edit…

> if someone knows how to solve this, I'd be glad to hear about it! With the risk of opening a can of worms, yes, get the pirated cracked versions of the game. You already own the legitimate copy so it's fair. Not your fault the DRM is not letting you play the games you paid for and own legitimetly. At least that's how I see things. Otherwise consider re-purchasing the DRM-free versions of the games on platforms like…

And while you’re doing that, get a few more titles from the same publisher and don’t pay for them. Vote with your wallet that this is not acceptable behavior. That’s also fair in my opinion. You ought to be compensated for your trouble and risk.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

#168

GNOME applications look so... mobile. Large controls, large title bars that lack maximize/minimize, simplistic layouts. It might be good for this kind of frontend apps but I can't see software like Krita or KDEnlive being done for GTK4/GNOME as of today (for reference: https://kdenlive.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/271174170_10... )

I believe the apps are designed this way so that they’re easily adaptable to GNOME shell on mobile[1].

I think the UI elements could be a tad smaller on desktops, but I’m still happy with how they look. Easily the best UI design out of any Linux desktop environment right now. At least in terms of clarity and consistency.

[1]: https://blogs.gnome.org/shell-dev/2022/09/09/gnome-shell-on-...

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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It didn't work the last time I tried it.

Had the same issue. You need to create another bottle in which you disable DXVK/VK3D.

Oh cool! When I tried, I didn't detect any network activity; figured the setup isn't even downloading the files.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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> if someone knows how to solve this, I'd be glad to hear about it! With the risk of opening a can of worms, yes, get the pirated cracked versions of the game. You already own the legitimate copy so it's fair. Not your fault the DRM is not letting you play the games you paid for and own legitimetly. At least that's how I see things. Otherwise consider re-purchasing the DRM-free versions of the games on platforms like…

Same prophecy I follow for movies. I buy movies second hand for dirt cheap, throw it in a cd wallet and toss that behind the shelf.

If you buy it secondhand, the original creator won't profit from the sale, right? If the intend is to justify your piracy, don't you need to buy a new copy instead of a secondhand one?
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