Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

cohost.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

361–370 of 492 posts

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#361

Post by parineum »

Osmose wrote: post #304
parineum wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the reason for this particular firing is because the risks of keeping this person employed were higher than keeping them employed. One mitigate their risk of getting fired by not being actively detrimental to their employer and even trying to contribute in a meaningful way. Being utterly replaceable is going to get you replaced. Conversely, if you're employable, a company is always at risk of you leaving. It's…

Employability isn't the only factor, there's insurance, health, debt, rising cost of living, visa status, and so on that can make it such that, while you can _technically_ leave at any time, it may be disastrous to do so. Which has knock-on effects like "people with disabilities are pressured to not speak out on social media for fear of losing the job that is covering life-saving treatments" without better protection…

All of that stuff is irrelevant, you get a new job and all of that stays the same. You're just flailing for social justice buzz words now.

As for "speaking out" on social media, that's not really a loss, it's useless. Talk to a lawyer, if you have a case, they'll take it for free. It's funny that slacktivism is so normalized that people think it's the right thing to do when they are trying to help themselves.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#362

Post by gdy »

SergeAx wrote: post #277
bbor wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Right now the US military tech, created with k8s among other components, is used by Ukrainian army to fight Putin invasion. Where this fact sits on your (im)morality scale?

You mean used by these guys? [0][1] Where do they sit on your morality scale? [2][3][4]

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols...

[1] http://cup.columbia.edu/book/from-the-fires-of-war/978383821...

[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ukraine-hasbetter-he...

[3] https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-row-over-holocaust-history-...

[4] https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-tells-israel-to-stay-o...

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#363

Post by morelisp »

wiseowise wrote: post #111
morelisp wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> VMware is committed to harnessing the power of human difference by enabling a workplace where we can all be proud to be our authentic selves.

What’s your point?

VMWare wants your authentic self to work, unless of course your "authentic self" has opinions.

(Anyone thinking this about "the pony" is missing the point, probably disingenuously so.)

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#364

Post by morelisp »

janejeon wrote: post #275
bitwize wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

> The pony IS her authentic self As a trans woman, I will pitch in and say this kind of stuff (from fringes of trans/queer community) is why we get hate crimed. There's medical basis (decades of research and literature) for asserting that one's gender does not match their biological sex. There's not a DSM V criteria for being a pony.

There is also nobody claiming to be a pony. If you're a trans woman you shouldn't be baited so easily.

I assure you they would keep "hate criming" you no matter how many cartoons you like.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#365

Post by morelisp »

coldtea wrote: post #312
znpy wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think what your employer does is unacceptable you shouldn’t work for them (even if this happens via an acquisition). But most people are extremely hypocritical, and will gladly ignore their “ideals” in the name of the holy fat paycheque.

Or you know, most people still need the food and rent. Do you go all out on your ideals? Does your employee not do anything that violates them?

There's even a middle ground where we don't have to agree with everything our employer does but also they don't get all whiny when we tweet about it.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#366

Post by morelisp »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #177
grimgoldgo wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, free speech doesn't extend to criticism of the government? People should lose their jobs because they said mean words on Twitter?

Aren’t most a Americans at-will employees? You can be fired for being too ugly, let alone things which might damage a company relationship.

I don't think anyone is debating VMWare's legal right to fire her, just the wisdom of such a decision.

If I was a big tech company especially one trying to find people interested in working lower down the stack, I wouldn't go around pissing off leftist furries.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#367

Post by znpy »

coldtea wrote: post #312
znpy wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think what your employer does is unacceptable you shouldn’t work for them (even if this happens via an acquisition). But most people are extremely hypocritical, and will gladly ignore their “ideals” in the name of the holy fat paycheque.

Or you know, most people still need the food and rent. Do you go all out on your ideals? Does your employee not do anything that violates them?

> Or you know, most people still need the food and rent.

this is complete bs. it's not 'VMWare or unemployment' (or any $bigtech or unemployment). there are a ton of employers ready to pay competent people a decent salary.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#369

Post by morelisp »

weeeeelp wrote: post #325
morelisp wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither is not bombing civilians, yet here we are.

Not throwing a tantrum on Twitter is much easier than conducting any kind of military operation.

I don't know about that, the smartest man in the world can't seem to stop posting while multiple distinct sets of complete idiots have managed to take over Afghanistan in the past two decades.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#370

Post by _kbh_ »

gdy wrote: post #362
SergeAx wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now the US military tech, created with k8s among other components, is used by Ukrainian army to fight Putin invasion. Where this fact sits on your (im)morality scale?

You mean used by these guys? [0][1] Where do they sit on your morality scale? [2][3][4] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols... [1] http://cup.columbia.edu/book/from-the-fires-of-war/978383821... [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ukraine-hasbetter-he... [3] https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-row-over-holocaust-history-... [4] https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-tells-israel-to-st…

> You mean used by these guys? [0][1] Where do they sit on your morality scale? [2][3][4]

Where do you the Russian soldiers raping and torturing children in Ukraine sit on your scale?. [1]

Where does the Russian government giving 1 Billion dollars to a PMC run by a Nazi with SS symbols tattooed on himself sit on your scale?. [2][3]

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-troops-raped-tort...

[2] https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-yevgeny-prigo...

[3] https://strikesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Screen-S... (the head of Wagner that the Russian government just gave a billion dollars to).

Post reply on HN