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Post by wolframhempel »

rmetzler wrote: post #253
wolframhempel wrote: post #165

I very much agree with the general sentiment here, but I want to make a separate point about tech's relationship to defense which is also portrait in these tweets. Much has been written about the DoD's funding of early Silicon Valley companies - but today, this relationship has been largely severed with giants like Google refusing to provide their tech for defense and military purposes. I THINK THIS IS A MASSIVE MIST…

So your view is that the military power of the US brings peace to the rest of the world?

That is too absolute a statement. But generally, yes, I believe that a militarily strong US that has an interest in global trade makes war much less likely.

Of course, one of the inherent problems of having a strong military is the temptation to use it - and the US has certainly done so multiple times in ill-advised fashion in Irak, Kuwait or Vietnam to name just a few.

But having a military superpower like the US that's more interested in economic and cultural expansion than in direct land grabs is certainly an important counterweight to Russian or Chinese ambition. I believe a world with a militarily weak US would have seen much less "Pax Americana" and much more aggressive, expansionary wars since 1945.

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Post by gettodachoppa »

tronfoulery wrote: post #266
Freak_NL wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She. If you are unsure of a person's gender, just use 'they', but don't assume it's a man. In this case the pronouns are right there on the top of the blog though (as well used in the article).

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Not cool, bro. I know transwomen are extremely over-represented among online drama queens and shit-stirrers, and many people resent them for that, but you should still say "she".

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Post by npteljes »

bsder wrote: post #171
constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

> I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. OP does mention that they were with VMWare only by acquisition. Do I think that OP should have done this? No. Do I think they deserve to be fired over this? No. This is the standard chastise them for being a…

> Do I think they deserve to be fired over this? No.

I think we're taking their account of the events at face value. Maybe this event was just the last in a chain of similar events, and management were fed up already.

Although, I also think that your kind of event description is just as likely. I'm sure it happens a lot, as I know it does in many political, business and interpersonal situations. And you know that being thin skinned won't ever lose them their power, just like that. A person has many reasons to get into power, it's not up to merit.

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Post by mbaraa »

revelio wrote: post #265
jossclimb wrote: post #70

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Engineers with unicorn / my little pony avatars is a slight red flag to me. I am as socialist as they come (I am not even American, I am Brit and a left wing), but I always try to not engage with those folks on twitter, to easy to get caught up in personal attacks if anything you say is remotely misunderstood. It can quite easily turn into a digital lynching.

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This is why many hiring managers these days have a covert policy to never hire any of these people, they can absolutely ruin a team, become a management nightmare and have a high chance of causing reputational damage. Even though in larger companies there is often a diversity drive to increase their number. It's just not worth the risk of hiring from this cohort.

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Post by Osmose »

revelio wrote: post #243
toyg wrote: post #131

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He basically admits as such, when he said challenging the nondisparaging clauses in the name of free speech was not worth risking the $40k paycheck.

Even worse than that. She took the $40k in return for agreeing to not disparage VMware. She then immediately started disparaging them, but it was "in private" whatever that means, so she presumed she wouldn't get caught. And then once her preferred candidate is in the White House she figures it's now safe to violate her agreement in public too, thus keeping the $40k AND going back on her word. She stiffed VMware once…

"Stabbing you in the back" is pretty strong language for posting social media about a personal experienced at a job she no longer has at a company that will barely see any consequences from this post using a right that literally the government has granted all workers now.

Like what world do you live in that people don't complain about their old jobs such that you think it's that unacceptable?

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Post by tronfoulery »

gettodachoppa wrote: post #282
tronfoulery wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Not cool, bro. I know transwomen are extremely over-represented among online drama queens and shit-stirrers, and many people resent them for that, but you should still say "she".

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Post by kome »

DaSHacka wrote: post #181
kome wrote: post #112

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I don't know anything about this person, but I would definitely hire them just because of this story! I like this kind of ppl and i dislike bootlickers, suckers and ppl without a spine

You'd hire someone you barely know because you like their political opinions? You'd be doing them more of a disservice than anything, as clearly your business will go under before the year's end and they'd be stuck finding a better job.

it's not just political opinions, it's voicing them - living by your own values

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Post by yungporko »

lynx23 wrote: post #41

Really? On first meeting they brought a witness who sort of livewteeted the meeting? This is so weird, I wonder what is going on with author that they dont see by themselves what they are doing here? Feels like a case of totally missing any sort of self-reflection.

this was most likely the only time they had ever had to deal with the consequences of their own actions.

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Post by tgremloch »

bitwize wrote: post #145
wiseowise wrote: post #111

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What’s your point?

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> The pony IS her authentic self. Forcing her to suppress that aspect of her identity is as oppressive as forcing gay or transgender people to suppress their identities.

That gave me a chuckle over my morning coffee. A beautifully absurd paragraph. Please write more of this comedy.

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Post by galkk »

grimgoldgo wrote: post #232
galkk wrote: post #168

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Did he took some person, in audience or otherwise public and built entire bit around saying "Fuck you" addressing that person? Carlin's sketches (at least ones that come to my mind, as I really loved to watch Carlin about 10-7 years ago) is irrelevant. When Carlin said "fuck you" he was speaking about phrase, not to someone in particular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqaOLThPg4 There could be different Carlin bits…

I do believe I'm at least attempting good faith here, I just do not find "fuck you" as a tweet, even levelled against me, to be particularly aggressive. Especially such a short message. I'm likely more terminally online, more cynical, or more desensitized, but I see the two word "fuck you" to be such low effort that it doesn't even rise to the level of notice. Like, an insult that specifically called out my behaviors…

But could you accept that other people can take that differently, especially if those people represent paying customers and getting such message from people who represent a vendor?
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