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Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by medellin »

grimgoldgo wrote: post #20
josephcsible wrote: post #6

If you publicly make personal attacks against employees of your employer's biggest customer, isn't firing you a completely reasonable thing for your employer to do?

Is saying "the blood never washes off" the hands of this DoD employee really a personal attack? I mean, it certainly seems like a consistent and reasonably widely held belief that military industrial complex jobs cost lives. There's of course the opposite opinion too. I'm not interested in trying to demonstrate that one opinion is right or wrong, just that like, is this really an attack ?

Incredible mental gymnastics

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by bigbacaloa »

constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

You are a typical employer unfortunately. Thin skin and no morals.

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Post by re-thc »

nik736 wrote: post #21
constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

It's also super unnecessary to tweet like that. No one wins.

Twitter wins. More traffic! Got to rate limit.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by siliconpotato »

grimgoldgo wrote: post #20
josephcsible wrote: post #6

If you publicly make personal attacks against employees of your employer's biggest customer, isn't firing you a completely reasonable thing for your employer to do?

Is saying "the blood never washes off" the hands of this DoD employee really a personal attack? I mean, it certainly seems like a consistent and reasonably widely held belief that military industrial complex jobs cost lives. There's of course the opposite opinion too. I'm not interested in trying to demonstrate that one opinion is right or wrong, just that like, is this really an attack ?

Of course it is an attack, and they tagged him in the tweet too. There were plenty of opportunities to keep the job after this point (deleting the tweets, not being a massive douchebag in every interaction with the company) but they gave the company no choice.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by King-Aaron »

morelisp wrote: post #58
King-Aaron wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that it's kind of odd that you question this. Acting with professionalism isn't all that hard.

Neither is not bombing civilians, yet here we are.

Christ, don't cut yourself with that edge.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by seanthemon »

newaccount74 wrote: post #45
constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

If you fire someone for a few insults on Twitter then you belong in Kindergarten, not in a management position. Boy, I'm so happy I don't work for anyone, I'd hate to have to deal with sensitive pricks that think they can dictate what their employees say on social media.

I'm curious, as a self-employeed worker, do you find freedom in saying "fuck you" to your clients publically online?

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by 3np »

josephcsible wrote: post #6

If you publicly make personal attacks against employees of your employer's biggest customer, isn't firing you a completely reasonable thing for your employer to do?

Depends.

If you do it from your private account, which doesn't contain any links to or mentions of you being part of your employer, outside of working hours? The employer shouldn't even be mentioning it.

If you do it from your fused-personal-and-work-persona while repping your employer on a conference, on working hours? You have it coming.

In one, you speak purely as a private person while in the other you are acting on behalf of your employer, like it or not. There's a vast gray area in-between. One of many good reasons to keep your identity small and your personas segregated. If you need to live-tweet no-filter-hot-takes from kubecon, you shouldn't be attending on company time.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by jossclimb »

constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

Engineers with unicorn / my little pony avatars is a slight red flag to me. I am as socialist as they come (I am not even American, I am Brit and a left wing), but I always try to not engage with those folks on twitter, to easy to get caught up in personal attacks if anything you say is remotely misunderstood. It can quite easily turn into a digital lynching.
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