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Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

> Canonical, the creator and main contributor of the LXD project has decided that after over 8 years as part of the Linux Containers community, the project would now be better served directly under Canonical’s own set of projects.

> While the team behind Linux Containers regrets that decision and will be missing LXD as one of its projects, it does respect Canonical’s decision and is now in the process of moving the project over.

I'm curious how that works; if the owner isn't happy about transferring the project, why go along with it? What leverage or right does Canonical have?

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by gkhartman »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #17

Very soon Microsoft will acquire Canonical for at least $40 billion. The reasons: * Ubuntu powers the overwhelming majority of Azure workloads (both customer and internal) * Nearly all Linux applications and tooling target Ubuntu first (or at the very least) * Github, VSCode. The missing piece is the actual runtime operating system. Ubuntu. * Canonical employs nearly all the remaining core enterprise open-source deve…

If it gets us closer to being able to run native Office and Directx apps on Linux I'm all for it. Snap enforcement already scared me away from Ubuntu for the most part anyway.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by pests »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #21

> Canonical, the creator and main contributor of the LXD project has decided that after over 8 years as part of the Linux Containers community, the project would now be better served directly under Canonical’s own set of projects. > While the team behind Linux Containers regrets that decision and will be missing LXD as one of its projects, it does respect Canonical’s decision and is now in the process of moving the p…

Linux Containers was always just an unbrella project which included LXD. Canonical was the creator and primary developer of LXD since its inception.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by ropyeett »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #21

> Canonical, the creator and main contributor of the LXD project has decided that after over 8 years as part of the Linux Containers community, the project would now be better served directly under Canonical’s own set of projects. > While the team behind Linux Containers regrets that decision and will be missing LXD as one of its projects, it does respect Canonical’s decision and is now in the process of moving the p…

LXD is a trademark of Canonical

https://ubuntu.com/legal/trademarks

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by SkyMarshal »

psanford wrote: post #10

LXD is really great software. The majority of the contributions already come from canonical, so I doubt this will make much difference in the trajectory of the project. I will say that I prefer running LXD on NixOS hosts where it isn't packaged as a snap. Hopefully canonical doesn't somehow break that.

> I will say that I prefer running LXD on NixOS hosts where it isn't packaged as a snap. Hopefully canonical doesn't somehow break that.

Same, though it seems this acquisition is mainly about snaps, so we'll see.

I wish Nix would package Kata, a hybrid of containers and VMs. I would migrate to that from LXD.

https://katacontainers.io/

It does have Firecracker and Ignite though, which I haven't tested but probably also suffice.

https://firecracker-microvm.github.io/

https://github.com/weaveworks/ignite

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by samtho »

I never hopped onto the LXD train because when I needed it years and years ago, it wasn’t quite ready for my use-case so I built my what I needed around LXC itself and it’s worked great.

I wonder how LXC will evolve and if another product will arise from this? It seems like the Linux Containers organization is staying separate with LXC.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by treyd »

gkhartman wrote: post #22
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #17

Very soon Microsoft will acquire Canonical for at least $40 billion. The reasons: * Ubuntu powers the overwhelming majority of Azure workloads (both customer and internal) * Nearly all Linux applications and tooling target Ubuntu first (or at the very least) * Github, VSCode. The missing piece is the actual runtime operating system. Ubuntu. * Canonical employs nearly all the remaining core enterprise open-source deve…

If it gets us closer to being able to run native Office and Directx apps on Linux I'm all for it. Snap enforcement already scared me away from Ubuntu for the most part anyway.

This would be self-sabotage for Microsoft, it erodes their moat. If they actually cared about user producitivity and making those specific products as widely used as possible then it would be reasonable for people to expext this, but that's not their real goal. Acquiring Canonical changes nothing about their ability to make this happen, they could do it today, but their corporate strategy forbids it.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by chubot »

totallywrong wrote: post #11

Stéphane Graber's work is fantastic and LXD had a lot of potential. But Canonical managed to drive me away from it with that abomination called Snap and its auto updates that could bring down a cluster without warning.

Yeah I'm setting up a Debian 12 Bookworm machine right now after ~13 years of being an Ubuntu user

So far it's very snappy! My Ubuntu 18.04 machine somehow "rotted" in ways that previous installs didn't -- everything became slow and janky, sorta like Windows

And I specifically installed 18.04 in 2021, to avoid Snaps

But now it looks like Debian will work great

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by totallywrong »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #19
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #17

Very soon Microsoft will acquire Canonical for at least $40 billion. The reasons: * Ubuntu powers the overwhelming majority of Azure workloads (both customer and internal) * Nearly all Linux applications and tooling target Ubuntu first (or at the very least) * Github, VSCode. The missing piece is the actual runtime operating system. Ubuntu. * Canonical employs nearly all the remaining core enterprise open-source deve…

Unless Microsoft has an Activision-sized amount of cash burning a hole in its pocket, that feels unlikely. Seems far easier/likelier to make a Microsoft branded Debian than to go all-in-on Ubuntu. Maybe I could take the aqui-hire angle, but how many Ubuntu devs would want to stay with Microsoft?

> Unless Microsoft has an Activision-sized amount of cash burning a hole in its pocket

What? You greatly overestimate Canonical. Buying it would be a rounding error in Microsoft's balance sheet.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Post by midoridensha »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #17

Very soon Microsoft will acquire Canonical for at least $40 billion. The reasons: * Ubuntu powers the overwhelming majority of Azure workloads (both customer and internal) * Nearly all Linux applications and tooling target Ubuntu first (or at the very least) * Github, VSCode. The missing piece is the actual runtime operating system. Ubuntu. * Canonical employs nearly all the remaining core enterprise open-source deve…

I always knew that http://mslinux.org/ wasn't just a joke, but an omen.
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